Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ###

On 21/05/2024 17:47, James Kuyper wrote:

On 5/21/24 05:36, David Brown wrote:
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so angry that I lashed out", first find someone who is /not/ made angry
by child abuse.)

 There are many people who object strenuously to having certain practices
labelled child abuse. In particular, they believe that children need to
be disciplined harshly to ensure that they grow up into properly moral
adults, adults who know, in particular, that it is moral to administer
such discipline when needed. I do not agree with those attitudes, bus I
think that they do qualify as "someone who is /not/ made angry by child
abuse".
 

That was not the kind of child abuse under discussion.  But if you are considering "child abuse" in more general terms, then you would be wrong - people who believe in "spare the rod and spoil the child", right up to those who support the absurdly inappropriately termed "honour killing", do so in the belief that they are doing the best for the child, and /failing/ to discipline harshly would be child abuse.

I know that there are organizations that promote the idea that child
sexual abuse should be legal; I don't know if there are any that favor
child abuse in general, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were.
 

 From the very little I have read of such groups, they believe children should be free to consent to sexual behaviour - in their eyes, it is not abuse if the child is consenting (and if the child is not consenting, as they see it, then it /is/ child abuse and a bad thing).
What is considered "child abuse" is something that has varied in time, varies across cultures, and varies by individuals.  That makes it very difficult to define universal laws or moral codes.  But while people can have different ideas about what constitutes "child abuse", I believe their is a strong consensus that "child abuse" is wrong - it is inherent in the words.
However, my point was that the common excuse of "I hate this crime so much I lashed out" is not a valid excuse.  You can step in and hit a physical bully to protect a victim, or yourself - you cannot pre-emptively hit someone just because you hate bullying and heard it said that they were a bully.  It does not matter if the bully had been convicted of violent crimes or not.  And the same applies to psychological violence - including hanging people out in social media.