Re: The error of the halting problem

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Sujet : Re: The error of the halting problem
De : mikko.levanto (at) *nospam* iki.fi (Mikko)
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Date : 04. Jun 2024, 10:00:43
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On 2024-06-03 20:53:01 +0000, olcott said:

For any program H that might determine whether programs halt, a
"pathological" program D, called with some input, can pass its own
source and its input to H and then specifically do the opposite of what
H predicts D will do. No H can exist that handles this case. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halting_problem
 The way that the halting problem is conventionally understood is that H
must correctly answer yes or no to an input that contradicts both
answers, thus H is being asked a question isomorphic to the Liar
Paradox: Is this sentence true or false: "This sentence is not true." ?
 *Two PhD computer science professors agree with this assessment*
 E C R Hehner. Problems with the Halting Problem, COMPUTING2011 Symposium on 75 years of Turing Machine and Lambda-Calculus, Karlsruhe Germany, invited, 2011 October 20-21; Advances in Computer Science and Engineering v.10 n.1 p.31-60, 2013
https://www.cs.toronto.edu/~hehner/PHP.pdf
 Bill Stoddart. The Halting Paradox
20 December 2017
https://arxiv.org/abs/1906.05340
arXiv:1906.05340 [cs.LO]
 E C R Hehner. Objective and Subjective Specifications
WST Workshop on Termination, Oxford.  2018 July 18.
See https://www.cs.toronto.edu/~hehner/OSS.pdf
That does not identify which problem is meant by the term "halting problem",
nor does it identify what part of the problemis erroneous or what the
word "error" could even mean in this context, let alone how it would apply
to the particular unspecified point.
--
Mikko

Date Sujet#  Auteur
3 Jun 24 * The error of the halting problem21olcott
4 Jun 24 +* Re: The error of the halting problem17Richard Damon
4 Jun 24 i`* Re: The error of the halting problem16olcott
4 Jun 24 i +* Re: The error of the halting problem14Richard Damon
4 Jun 24 i i`* Re: The error of the halting problem13olcott
4 Jun 24 i i `* Re: The error of the halting problem12Richard Damon
4 Jun 24 i i  `* Re: The error of the halting problem11olcott
4 Jun 24 i i   +* Re: The error of the halting problem9Richard Damon
4 Jun 24 i i   i`* Re: The error of the halting problem8olcott
4 Jun 24 i i   i `* Re: The error of the halting problem7Richard Damon
4 Jun 24 i i   i  `* Re: The error of the halting problem6olcott
4 Jun 24 i i   i   +- Re: The error of the halting problem1Richard Damon
4 Jun 24 i i   i   +* Re: The error of the halting problem3joes
4 Jun 24 i i   i   i`* Re: The error of the halting problem --- G is untrue in PA2olcott
5 Jun 24 i i   i   i `- Re: The error of the halting problem --- G is untrue in PA1Richard Damon
4 Jun 24 i i   i   `- Re: The error of the halting problem1Mikko
4 Jun 24 i i   `- Re: The error of the halting problem1joes
4 Jun 24 i `- Re: The error of the halting problem1Mikko
4 Jun 24 `* Re: The error of the halting problem3Mikko
4 Jun 24  `* Re: The error of the halting problem2olcott
5 Jun 24   `- Re: The error of the halting problem1Richard Damon

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