Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation

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Sujet : Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation
De : richard (at) *nospam* damon-family.org (Richard Damon)
Groupes : comp.theory sci.logic
Date : 07. Jun 2024, 04:08:33
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On 6/6/24 2:35 PM, olcott wrote:
<MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022>
   If simulating halt decider H correctly simulates its input D
   until H correctly determines that its simulated D would never
   stop running unless aborted then
    H can abort its simulation of D and correctly report that D
   specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations.
</MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words10/13/2022>
 *Try to show how this DD correctly simulated by any HH ever*
*stops running without having its simulation aborted by HH*
 _DD()
[00001e12] 55         push ebp
[00001e13] 8bec       mov  ebp,esp
[00001e15] 51         push ecx
[00001e16] 8b4508     mov  eax,[ebp+08]
[00001e19] 50         push eax      ; push DD
[00001e1a] 8b4d08     mov  ecx,[ebp+08]
[00001e1d] 51         push ecx      ; push DD
[00001e1e] e85ff5ffff call 00001382 ; call HH
 
And since HH DOESN"T correctly simulate its input (if it answers) then you can't use a criteria that isn't satisfied to justify its behavior.
HH can't even show that some other correct (and complete) simuliaton of the exact input it is processing won't halt (remember, that is DD paired with THAT HH, not any other). so you can't even generise the criteria.
Trying to argue based on a non-satisfied criteria is just INVALID.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
6 Jun 24 * DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation15olcott
6 Jun 24 +* Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation4Rafael Doofenschmirtz
7 Jun 24 i`* Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation3Mikko
7 Jun 24 i `* Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation2olcott
7 Jun 24 i  `- Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation1Richard Damon
7 Jun 24 +- Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation1Richard Damon
7 Jun 24 +* Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation4Mikko
7 Jun 24 i`* Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation3olcott
7 Jun 24 i +- Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation1Richard Damon
8 Jun 24 i `- Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation1Mikko
7 Jun 24 `* Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation5Fred. Zwarts
7 Jun 24  `* Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation4olcott
7 Jun 24   +- Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation1olcott
7 Jun 24   +- Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation1Fred. Zwarts
7 Jun 24   `- Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation1Richard Damon

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