Sujet : Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES
De : polcott333 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (olcott)
Groupes : comp.theoryDate : 16. Jun 2024, 13:47:09
Autres entêtes
Organisation : A noiseless patient Spider
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On 6/16/2024 2:53 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2024-06-15 16:22:09 +0000, olcott said:
On 6/13/2024 8:24 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 6/13/24 11:32 AM, olcott wrote:
>>
>> It is contingent upon you to show the exact steps of how H computes
>> the mapping from the x86 machine language finite string input to
>> H(D,D) using the finite string transformation rules specified by
>> the semantics of the x86 programming language that reaches the
>> behavior of the directly executed D(D)
>>
>
> Why? I don't claim it can.
>
The first six steps of this mapping are when instructions
at the machine address range of [00000cfc] to [00000d06]
are simulated/executed.
>
After that the behavior of D correctly simulated by H diverges
from the behavior of D(D) because the call to H(D,D) by D
correctly simulated by H cannot possibly return to D.
>
_D()
[00000cfc](01) 55 push ebp
[00000cfd](02) 8bec mov ebp,esp
[00000cff](03) 8b4508 mov eax,[ebp+08]
[00000d02](01) 50 push eax ; push D
[00000d03](03) 8b4d08 mov ecx,[ebp+08]
[00000d06](01) 51 push ecx ; push D
[00000d07](05) e800feffff call 00000b0c ; call H
[00000d0c](03) 83c408 add esp,+08
[00000d0f](02) 85c0 test eax,eax
[00000d11](02) 7404 jz 00000d17
[00000d13](02) 33c0 xor eax,eax
[00000d15](02) eb05 jmp 00000d1c
[00000d17](05) b801000000 mov eax,00000001
[00000d1c](01) 5d pop ebp
[00000d1d](01) c3 ret
Size in bytes:(0034) [00000d1d]
When you put "V2" or "V3" or something similar on the subject line
you should tell what is different from the original version.
I ask what are the steps
I provide 6 steps and then ask what are the next steps.
I provide all of the steps.
-- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Geniushits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer
| Date | Sujet | # | | Auteur |
| 15 Jun 24 |  H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES | 44 | | olcott |
| 15 Jun 24 |  Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES | 19 | | Richard Damon |
| 15 Jun 24 |   Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES | 18 | | olcott |
| 16 Jun 24 |  Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES | 17 | | Richard Damon |
| 16 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES | 16 | | olcott |
| 16 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES | 15 | | Richard Damon |
| 16 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES | 14 | | olcott |
| 16 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES | 13 | | Richard Damon |
| 16 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES | 12 | | olcott |
| 16 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES | 11 | | Richard Damon |
| 16 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES | 10 | | olcott |
| 16 Jun 24 |  Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES | 1 | | Richard Damon |
| 16 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES | 8 | | Mikko |
| 16 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES | 7 | | olcott |
| 16 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES | 1 | | Richard Damon |
| 17 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES | 5 | | Mikko |
| 17 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES | 4 | | olcott |
| 18 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES | 3 | | Mikko |
| 18 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES | 2 | | olcott |
| 18 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES | 1 | | Mikko |
| 16 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES | 24 | | Mikko |
| 16 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES | 23 | | olcott |
| 16 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES | 1 | | Richard Damon |
| 17 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES | 21 | | Mikko |
| 17 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES | 20 | | olcott |
| 18 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES | 1 | | Richard Damon |
| 18 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES | 18 | | Mikko |
| 18 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES | 17 | | olcott |
| 18 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES | 16 | | Mikko |
| 18 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES | 5 | | olcott |
| 19 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES | 4 | | Mikko |
| 19 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES | 2 | | olcott |
| 20 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES | 1 | | Mikko |
| 20 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES | 1 | | olcott |
| 18 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES | 10 | | olcott |
| 19 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES | 9 | | Fred. Zwarts |
| 19 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES | 8 | | olcott |
| 19 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES | 7 | | Fred. Zwarts |
| 19 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES | 6 | | olcott |
| 19 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES | 5 | | Fred. Zwarts |
| 19 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES | 4 | | olcott |
| 19 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES | 2 | | Alan Mackenzie |
| 19 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES | 1 | | olcott |
| 20 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES | 1 | | Fred. Zwarts |