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On 2024-07-17 13:14:43 +0000, olcott said:Of the set of possible things TM's can do them all.
On 7/17/2024 2:08 AM, Mikko wrote:A logical impossibility does place a limit on computation.On 2024-07-16 14:46:40 +0000, olcott said:>
>On 7/16/2024 2:18 AM, Mikko wrote:>On 2024-07-15 13:32:27 +0000, olcott said:>
>On 7/15/2024 2:57 AM, Mikko wrote:>On 2024-07-14 14:48:05 +0000, olcott said:>
>On 7/14/2024 3:49 AM, Mikko wrote:>On 2024-07-13 12:18:27 +0000, olcott said:>
When the source of your disagreement is your own ignorance
then your disagreement has no actual basis.
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*You can comprehend this is a truism or fail to*
*comprehend it disagreement is necessarily incorrect*
Any input that must be aborted to prevent the non
termination of HHH necessarily specifies non-halting
behavior or it would never need to be aborted.
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Disagreeing with the above is analogous to disagreeing
with arithmetic.
A lame analogy. A better one is: 2 + 3 = 5 is a proven theorem just
like the uncomputability of halting is.
The uncomputability of halting is only proven when the problem
is framed this way: HHH is required to report on the behavior
of an input that was defined to do exactly the opposite of
whatever DDD reports.
No, it is proven about the halting problem as that problem is.
Which is simply a logical impossibility
Yes, a halting decider is a logical impossibility, as can be and has
been proven.
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If it is a logical impossibility then it places no
actual limit on computation otherwise we would have
"the CAD problem" of the logical impossibility of making
a CAD system that correctly draws a square circle.
Otherwise it would be possible to build a CAD system that
can correctly draw a square circle.
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