Re: No decider is ever accountable for the behavior of the computation that itself is contained within (unless that is its input)

On 7/26/24 1:29 PM, olcott wrote:

On 7/26/2024 12:09 PM, olcott wrote:

On 7/26/2024 11:28 AM, olcott wrote:

No decider is ever accountable for the behavior of the
computation that itself is contained within.
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It is only accountable for computing the mapping from the
input finite string to the actual behavior that this finite
string specifies.
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typedef void (*ptr)();
int HHH(ptr P);
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void DDD()
{
   HHH(DDD);
}
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int main()
{
   DDD();
}
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HHH(DDD) is only accountable for the actual behavior that
its input specifies and is not accountable for the behavior
of the computation that itself is contained within:
the directly executed DDD();
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When Ĥ is applied to ⟨Ĥ⟩
Ĥ.q0 ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⊢* embedded_H ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⊢* Ĥ.qy ∞
Ĥ.q0 ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⊢* embedded_H ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⊢* Ĥ.qn
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(a) Ĥ copies its input ⟨Ĥ⟩
(b) Ĥ invokes embedded_H ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩
(c) embedded_H simulates ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩
(d) simulated ⟨Ĥ⟩ copies its input ⟨Ĥ⟩
(e) simulated ⟨Ĥ⟩ invokes simulated embedded_H ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩
(f) simulated embedded_H simulates ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩
(g) goto (d) with one more level of simulation
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Two complete simulations show a pair of identical TMD's are
simulating a pair of identical inputs.  We can see this thus
proving recursive simulation.
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When we understand that embedded_H is accountable for the
behavior of its input and not accountable for the behavior
of the computation that itself is contained within then
we understand that embedded_H is necessarily correct to
transition to its own Ĥ.qn state.
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https://www.liarparadox.org/Linz_Proof.pdf
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_DDD()
[00002177] 55               push ebp
[00002178] 8bec             mov ebp,esp
[0000217a] 6877210000       push 00002177 ; push DDD
[0000217f] e853f4ffff       call 000015d7 ; call HHH
[00002184] 83c404           add esp,+04
[00002187] 5d               pop ebp
[00002188] c3               ret
Size in bytes:(0018) [00002188]
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_main()
[00002197] 55               push ebp
[00002198] 8bec             mov ebp,esp
[0000219a] e8d8ffffff       call 00002177 ; call DDD
[0000219f] 33c0             xor eax,eax
[000021a1] 5d               pop ebp
[000021a2] c3               ret
Size in bytes:(0012) [000021a2]
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  machine   stack     stack     machine    assembly
  address   address   data      code       language
  ========  ========  ========  =========  =============
[00002197][001037e9][00000000] 55         push ebp
[00002198][001037e9][00000000] 8bec       mov ebp,esp
[0000219a][001037e5][0000219f] e8d8ffffff call 00002177 ; call DDD
[00002177][001037e1][001037e9] 55         push ebp
[00002178][001037e1][001037e9] 8bec       mov ebp,esp
[0000217a][001037dd][00002177] 6877210000 push 00002177 ; push DDD
[0000217f][001037d9][00002184] e853f4ffff call 000015d7 ; call HHH
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// executed HHH emulates 1st instance of DDD
New slave_stack at:10388d
Begin Local Halt Decider Simulation   Execution Trace Stored at:113895
[00002177][00113885][00113889] 55         push ebp
[00002178][00113885][00113889] 8bec       mov ebp,esp
[0000217a][00113881][00002177] 6877210000 push 00002177 ; push DDD
[0000217f][0011387d][00002184] e853f4ffff call 000015d7 ; call HHH
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// emulated HHH emulates 2nd instance of DDD
New slave_stack at:14e2b5
[00002177][0015e2ad][0015e2b1] 55         push ebp
[00002178][0015e2ad][0015e2b1] 8bec       mov ebp,esp
[0000217a][0015e2a9][00002177] 6877210000 push 00002177 ; push DDD
[0000217f][0015e2a5][00002184] e853f4ffff call 000015d7 ; call HHH
Local Halt Decider: Infinite Recursion Detected Simulation Stopped
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 The above has the same behavior pattern as infinite recursion
shown below.

Nope, Not if HHH is a conditional simulator, as it needs to be to do the abort to give an answer.
Sorry, you are just proving that you are just a IGNORANT PATHOLOGICAL LIAR.
Neglecting the conditional nature of HHH just proves you are just a stupid liar.

 void Infinite_Recursion()
{
   Infinite_Recursion();
}
 _Infinite_Recursion()
[0000215a] 55               push ebp
[0000215b] 8bec             mov ebp,esp
[0000215d] e8f8ffffff       call 0000215a ; recursive call
[00002162] 5d               pop ebp
[00002163] c3               ret
Size in bytes:(0010) [00002163]
 Begin Local Halt Decider Simulation   Execution Trace Stored at:113934
[0000215a][00113924][00113928] 55               push ebp
[0000215b][00113924][00113928] 8bec             mov ebp,esp
[0000215d][00113920][00002162] e8f8ffffff       call 0000215a
[0000215a][0011391c][00113924] 55               push ebp
[0000215b][0011391c][00113924] 8bec             mov ebp,esp
[0000215d][00113918][00002162] e8f8ffffff       call 0000215a
Local Halt Decider: Infinite Recursion Detected Simulation Stopped
 

[00002184][001037e1][001037e9] 83c404     add esp,+04
[00002187][001037e5][0000219f] 5d         pop ebp
[00002188][001037e9][00000000] c3         ret
[0000219f][001037e9][00000000] 33c0       xor eax,eax
[000021a1][001037ed][00000018] 5d         pop ebp
[000021a2][001037f1][00000000] c3         ret
Number of Instructions Executed(10071) == 150 Pages
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