Sujet : Re: Everyone here seems to consistently lie about this
De : abc (at) *nospam* def.com (olcott)
Groupes : comp.theoryDate : 06. Aug 2024, 14:12:05
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On 8/6/2024 6:54 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 8/6/24 7:35 AM, olcott wrote:
On 8/6/2024 3:07 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2024-08-05 12:45:11 +0000, olcott said:
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On 8/5/2024 2:27 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2024-08-04 12:33:20 +0000, olcott said:
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On 8/4/2024 2:15 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2024-08-03 13:48:12 +0000, olcott said:
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On 8/3/2024 3:06 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2024-08-02 02:09:38 +0000, olcott said:
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*This algorithm is used by all the simulating termination analyzers*
<MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022>
If simulating halt decider H correctly simulates its input D
until H correctly determines that its simulated D would never
stop running unless aborted then
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H can abort its simulation of D and correctly report that D
specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations.
</MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022>
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DDD is correctly emulated by HHH according to the x86
language semantics of DDD and HHH including when DDD
emulates itself emulating DDD
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*UNTIL*
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HHH correctly determines that never aborting this
emulation would cause DDD and HHH to endlessly repeat.
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The determination is not correct. DDD is a halting computation, as
correctely determined by HHH1 or simly calling it from main. It is
not possible to correctly determine that ha haling computation is
non-halting, as is self-evdent from the meaning of the words.
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[Who here is too stupid to know that DDD correctly simulated
by HHH cannot possibly reach its own return instruction?]
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Who here is too stupid to know that whether DDD can reach its
own return instruction depends on code not shown below?
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void DDD()
{
HHH(DDD);
return;
}
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It is stipulated that HHH is an x86 emulator the emulates
N instructions of DDD where N is 0 to infinity.
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That is not stipulated above. Anyway, that stipulation would not
alter the correctness of my answer.
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typedef void (*ptr)();
int HHH(ptr P);
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void DDD()
{
HHH(DDD);
return;
}
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int main()
{
HHH(DDD);
}
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In other words you do not know C well enough to comprehend
that DDD correctly simulated by any HHH cannot possibly reach
its own "return" instruction halt state.
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You are lying again.
that
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I am hypothesizing. If you do know C well enough to agree then
simply agree. What I said is a tautology thus disagreement <is> error.
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And, if it *IS* a tautoligy, then you agree that "Correct Simulation" means a simulation that doesn't abort,
Your attention deficit order continues to cause you to forget
most of the details that I told you hundreds of times.
A correct emulation of 0 to infinity lines of DDD is
a correct emulation of 0 to infinity lines of DDD.
A correct simulation of N lines of DDD is sufficient to
determine that no correct simulation of DDD by any HHH
will ever stop running unless aborted.
-- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Geniushits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer
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