Re: Anyone that disagrees with this is not telling the truth

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Sujet : Re: Anyone that disagrees with this is not telling the truth
De : polcott333 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (olcott)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 18. Aug 2024, 13:47:12
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On 8/18/2024 3:50 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2024-08-17 12:31:01 +0000, olcott said:
 
On 8/17/2024 7:29 AM, olcott wrote:
void DDD()
{
  HHH(DDD);
}
>
_DDD()
[00002172] 55         push ebp      ; housekeeping
[00002173] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
[00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD
[0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD)
[0000217f] 83c404     add esp,+04
[00002182] 5d         pop ebp
[00002183] c3         ret
Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]
>
*It is a basic fact that DDD emulated by HHH according to*
*the semantics of the x86 language cannot possibly stop*
*running unless aborted* (out of memory error excluded)
>
>
Simulating Termination Analyzer H is Not Fooled by Pathological Input D
>
https://www.researchgate.net/ publication/369971402_Simulating_Termination_Analyzer_H_is_Not_Fooled_by_Pathological_Input_D
 That attempt should be discussed separately, and to some extent already is.
 
We are discussing the foundation of that in this thread.
X = DDD emulated by HHH according to the semantics of the x86 language
Y = HHH never aborts its emulation of DDD
Z = DDD never stops running
This is the essence of above: (X ∧ Y) ↔ Z
x86utm takes the compiled Halt7.obj file of this c program
https://github.com/plolcott/x86utm/blob/master/Halt7.c
Thus making all of the code of HHH directly available to
DDD and itself. HHH emulates itself emulating DDD.
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17 Aug 24 i+* Re: Anyone that claims this is not telling the truth6Richard Damon
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17 Aug 24 iii`- Re: Anyone that claims this is not telling the truth1Richard Damon
17 Aug 24 ii`* Re: Anyone that claims this is not telling the truth3olcott
17 Aug 24 ii +- Re: Anyone that claims this is not telling the truth1Richard Damon
18 Aug 24 ii `- Re: Anyone that claims this is not telling the truth1Mikko
18 Aug 24 i`* Re: Anyone that disagrees with this is not telling the truth3Mikko
18 Aug 24 i `* Re: Anyone that disagrees with this is not telling the truth2olcott
18 Aug 24 i  `- Re: Anyone that disagrees with this is not telling the truth1Richard Damon
17 Aug 24 +* Re: Anyone that claims this is not telling the truth53Richard Damon
17 Aug 24 i`* Re: Anyone that claims this is not telling the truth52olcott
17 Aug 24 i `* Re: Anyone that claims this is not telling the truth51Richard Damon
17 Aug 24 i  `* Re: Anyone that claims this is not telling the truth50olcott
17 Aug 24 i   +* Re: Anyone that claims this is not telling the truth42Richard Damon
17 Aug 24 i   i`* Re: Anyone that claims this is not telling the truth41olcott
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17 Aug 24 i   i i    `* Re: Anyone that claims this is not telling the truth28olcott
17 Aug 24 i   i i     `* Re: Anyone that claims this is not telling the truth27Richard Damon
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18 Aug 24 i   i i       i            i`- Re: Anyone that claims this is not telling the truth1Richard Damon
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18 Aug 24 i   i i       i             `* Re: Anyone that claims this is not telling the truth3Richard Damon
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18 Aug 24 i   i i       i               `- Re: Anyone that claims this is not telling the truth1Richard Damon
18 Aug 24 i   i i       `* Re: Anyone that claims this is not telling the truth4Mikko
18 Aug 24 i   i i        `* Re: Anyone that claims this is not telling the truth3olcott
18 Aug 24 i   i i         +- Re: Anyone that claims this is not telling the truth1Richard Damon
19 Aug 24 i   i i         `- Re: Anyone that claims this is not telling the truth1Mikko
18 Aug 24 i   i `* Re: Anyone that claims this is not telling the truth7Mikko
18 Aug 24 i   i  `* Re: Anyone that claims this is not telling the truth6olcott
18 Aug 24 i   i   +* Re: Anyone that claims this is not telling the truth2Richard Damon
19 Aug 24 i   i   i`- Re: Anyone that claims this is not telling the truth1Mikko
19 Aug 24 i   i   `* Re: Anyone that claims this is not telling the truth3Mikko
19 Aug 24 i   i    `* Re: Anyone that claims this is not telling the truth2Richard Damon
20 Aug 24 i   i     `- Re: Anyone that claims this is not telling the truth1Mikko
18 Aug 24 i   `* Re: Anyone that claims this is not telling the truth7Mikko
18 Aug 24 i    `* Re: Anyone that claims this is not telling the truth6olcott
18 Aug 24 i     +- Re: Anyone that claims this is not telling the truth1Richard Damon
19 Aug 24 i     `* Re: Anyone that claims this is not telling the truth4Mikko
19 Aug 24 i      `* Re: Anyone that claims this is not telling the truth --- V43olcott
20 Aug 24 i       +- Re: Anyone that claims this is not telling the truth --- V41Richard Damon
20 Aug 24 i       `- Re: Anyone that claims this is not telling the truth --- V41Mikko
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18 Aug 24 i`* Re: Anyone that disagrees with this is not telling the truth7olcott
18 Aug 24 i +- Re: Anyone that disagrees with this is not telling the truth1Richard Damon
19 Aug 24 i +* Re: Anyone that disagrees with this is not telling the truth4Mikko
19 Aug 24 i i`* Re: Anyone that disagrees with this is not telling the truth V43olcott
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19 Aug 24 i`* Re: Anyone that disagrees with this is not telling the truth ---V23Mikko
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