Re: Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof

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Sujet : Re: Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof
De : F.Zwarts (at) *nospam* HetNet.nl (Fred. Zwarts)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 16. Sep 2024, 10:09:47
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Op 15.sep.2024 om 16:23 schreef olcott:
 Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof
D(D) correctly reports its own halt status
 https://www.researchgate.net/ publication/364302709_Rebutting_the_Sipser_Halting_Problem_Proof
 
The simulation invariant is that H fails to reach the relevant part of the simulation. It stops the simulation and never sees how the simulated H aborts and therefore never reaches the 'pathological' part of D (lines 7 and 8).
This is due to the bug in H, that decides that there is an infinite recursion when it sees only a finite recursion.
Although it is programmed to see the 'special condition' to abort and halt the simulation, it does not realise that the simulated H is also programmed to see this 'special condition' to abort and halt the simulation.
H cannot possibly simulate itself correctly up to the end.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
15 Sep16:23 * Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof18olcott
15 Sep18:55 +* Re: Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof3Richard Damon
15 Sep21:07 i`* Re: Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof2olcott
16 Sep03:10 i `- Re: Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof1Richard Damon
16 Sep10:06 +* Re: Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof3Mikko
16 Sep14:03 i`* Re: Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof2olcott
17 Sep08:51 i `- Re: Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof1Mikko
16 Sep10:09 +- Re: Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof1Fred. Zwarts
16 Sep13:21 `* Re: Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof10Fred. Zwarts
16 Sep14:09  `* Re: Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof --- damned liar9olcott
16 Sep15:36   +* Re: Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof --- damned liar7Fred. Zwarts
16 Sep17:58   i`* Re: Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof --- H emulating H emulating D6olcott
17 Sep00:52   i `* Re: Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof --- H emulating H emulating D5Richard Damon
17 Sep01:15   i  `* Re: Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof --- H emulating H emulating D4olcott
17 Sep04:42   i   `* Re: Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof --- H emulating H emulating D3Richard Damon
17 Sep05:13   i    `* Re: Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof --- H emulating H emulating D2olcott
17 Sep12:59   i     `- Re: Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof --- H emulating H emulating D1Richard Damon
17 Sep00:52   `- Re: Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof --- damned liar1Richard Damon

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