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Date : 08. Nov 2024, 20:14:35
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Am Fri, 08 Nov 2024 09:15:29 -0600 schrieb olcott:
On 11/8/2024 9:05 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
On 11/8/2024 5:58 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
In comp.theory olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
On 11/6/2024 2:34 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
In comp.theory olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
On 11/6/2024 10:45 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:

As I have continually made clear in my posts "like 2 + 2 = 4" includes
the halting theorem, Gödel's theorem, and Tarski's theorem.
Your misconceptions are not my errors.
You cannot possibly prove that they are infallible that best that you
can show is that you believe they are infallible.
They are proven. Show the error.

When the operations are limited to applying truth preserving
operations to expressions of language that are stipulated to be true
then True(L,x) ≡ (L ⊢ x) and False(L, x) ≡ (L ⊢ ~x)
Then (Incomplete(L) ≡  ∃x ∈ Language(L) ((L ⊬ x) ∧ (L ⊬ ¬x))) becomes
(¬TruthBearer(L,x) ≡  ∃x ∈ Language(L) ((L ⊬ x) ∧ (L ⊬ ¬x)))
Incompleteness utterly ceases to exist
Incompleteness is an essential property of logic systems
What I said about is a semantic tautology just like 2 + 3 = 5. Formal
systems are only incomplete when the term "incomplete" is a dysphemism
for the inability of formal systems to correctly determine the truth
value of non-truth-bearers.
What is the truth value of non-truth-bearers then?

which can do anything at all.  If what you assert is true (which I
doubt), then your system would be incapable of doing anything useful.
--
Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math:
It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.

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27 Oct 24 * The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---590olcott
27 Oct 24 `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---589Richard Damon
27 Oct 24  `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---588olcott
28 Oct 24   `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---587Richard Damon
28 Oct 24    `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---586olcott
28 Oct 24     `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---585Richard Damon
28 Oct 24      `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---584olcott
29 Oct 24       `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---583Richard Damon
29 Oct 24        +* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---468olcott
29 Oct 24        i+- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Richard Damon
29 Oct 24        i`* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---466Mikko
29 Oct 24        i +* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---272olcott
29 Oct 24        i i+* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---244Andy Walker
29 Oct 24        i ii+* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---9olcott
29 Oct 24        i iii+* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---7joes
29 Oct 24        i iiii`* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---6olcott
30 Oct 24        i iiii `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---5Richard Damon
30 Oct 24        i iiii  `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---4olcott
30 Oct 24        i iiii   `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---3Richard Damon
30 Oct 24        i iiii    `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---2olcott
31 Oct 24        i iiii     `- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Richard Damon
30 Oct 24        i iii`- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Richard Damon
30 Oct 24        i ii`* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---234Jeff Barnett
30 Oct 24        i ii +* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---4olcott
30 Oct 24        i ii i`* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---3Richard Damon
30 Oct 24        i ii i `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---2olcott
31 Oct 24        i ii i  `- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Richard Damon
30 Oct 24        i ii `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---229Andy Walker
30 Oct 24        i ii  +* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---2olcott
31 Oct 24        i ii  i`- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Richard Damon
31 Oct 24        i ii  `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---226Mikko
31 Oct 24        i ii   +* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---3olcott
1 Nov 24        i ii   i+- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Richard Damon
1 Nov 24        i ii   i`- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Mikko
31 Oct 24        i ii   `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---222Andy Walker
31 Oct 24        i ii    `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---221olcott
1 Nov 24        i ii     `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---220Richard Damon
1 Nov 24        i ii      `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---219olcott
1 Nov 24        i ii       +* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---209olcott
1 Nov 24        i ii       i+* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---207Mikko
1 Nov 24        i ii       ii`* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---206olcott
2 Nov 24        i ii       ii +- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Richard Damon
2 Nov 24        i ii       ii `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---204Mikko
2 Nov 24        i ii       ii  +* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---189Andy Walker
2 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i+* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---2olcott
2 Nov 24        i ii       ii  ii`- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Richard Damon
2 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i+- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Richard Damon
3 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i`* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---185Mikko
3 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i +* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---15olcott
3 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i i+* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---12Mike Terry
3 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i ii`* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---11olcott
3 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i ii `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---10Richard Damon
3 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i ii  `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---9olcott
3 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i ii   `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---8Richard Damon
3 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i ii    `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---7olcott
3 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i ii     `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---6Richard Damon
3 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i ii      `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---5olcott
4 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i ii       +- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Richard Damon
4 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i ii       `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---3joes
5 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i ii        `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---2olcott
5 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i ii         `- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Richard Damon
3 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i i+- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Richard Damon
4 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i i`- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Mikko
3 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---169Andy Walker
4 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i  +- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1olcott
4 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i  `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---167Mikko
5 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i   `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---166Andy Walker
5 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i    +* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---3olcott
5 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i    i+- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Richard Damon
5 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i    i`- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Mikko
5 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i    +* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---3Mikko
6 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i    i`* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---2Andy Walker
6 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i    i `- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Mikko
6 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i    `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---159Alan Mackenzie
6 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     +* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---157olcott
6 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     i+* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---152Alan Mackenzie
7 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii`* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---151olcott
8 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii `* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---150Alan Mackenzie
8 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii  `* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---149olcott
8 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   +* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---147Alan Mackenzie
8 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i`* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---146olcott
8 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i +* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---142Alan Mackenzie
8 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i i`* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---141olcott
8 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i i +* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---139Alan Mackenzie
8 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i i i`* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---138olcott
8 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i i i +* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---129Richard Damon
8 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i i i i`* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---128olcott
8 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i i i i `* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---127Richard Damon
8 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i i i i  `* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---126olcott
8 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i i i i   `* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---125Richard Damon
9 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i i i i    `* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---124olcott
9 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i i i i     `* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---123Richard Damon
9 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i i i i      `* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---122olcott
9 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i i i i       +* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---4Richard Damon
9 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i i i i       i`* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---3olcott
9 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i i i i       i `* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---2Richard Damon
9 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i i i i       i  `- Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Mikko
9 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i i i i       `* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---117joes
9 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i i i i        `* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis --- infallibly correct116olcott
9 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i i i i         +- Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis --- infallibly correct1Richard Damon
9 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i i i i         +* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis --- infallibly correct105Alan Mackenzie
9 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i i i i         +* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis --- infallibly correct8joes
10 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i i i i         `- Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis --- infallibly correct1Mikko
8 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i i i `* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---8Alan Mackenzie
9 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i i `- Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Mikko
8 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i +- Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Richard Damon
8 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   i `* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---2joes
9 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     ii   `- Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Mikko
7 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     i`* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---4Richard Damon
7 Nov 24        i ii       ii  i     `- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Mikko
2 Nov 24        i ii       ii  +* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---12olcott
4 Nov 24        i ii       ii  `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---2olcott
2 Nov 24        i ii       i`- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Richard Damon
1 Nov 24        i ii       `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---9Mikko
29 Oct 24        i i+* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---16joes
30 Oct 24        i i+- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---1Richard Damon
30 Oct 24        i i`* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---10Mikko
29 Oct 24        i `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---193olcott
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