Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN --- Saving Democracy

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Sujet : Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN --- Saving Democracy
De : dbush.mobile (at) *nospam* gmail.com (dbush)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 25. Feb 2025, 02:51:13
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On 2/24/2025 8:47 PM, olcott wrote:
On 2/24/2025 7:26 PM, dbush wrote:
On 2/24/2025 8:12 PM, olcott wrote:
On 2/24/2025 6:06 PM, dbush wrote:
On 2/24/2025 6:16 PM, olcott wrote:
On 2/24/2025 3:47 PM, dbush wrote:
On 2/24/2025 4:26 PM, olcott wrote:
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HHH that aborts its simulation and a purely
hypothetical (imaginary never implemented)
HHH that never aborts its simulation.
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Same thing.  F aborts its (admittedly poor) simulation by breaking out of a recursive chain, and a hypothetical F that performs a correct unaborted simulation.
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The simple fact that the hypothetical HHH would never
terminate conclusively proves that DD specifies behavior
that cannot possibly terminate normally.
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And the simple fact that the hypothetical F would never terminate conclusively proves that no_numbers_greater_than_10 specifies behavior that cannot possibly terminate normally.
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Agreed?
 I will not discuss your code.
 
I'll let you respond to yourself here:
On 11/10/2024 11:41 PM, olcott wrote:
 > That is a dishonest dodge. An honest rebuttal would explain
 > all of the details of how I am incorrect. You can't do that
 > because I am correct.

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8 Feb 25 * Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH485olcott
8 Feb 25 +- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1Richard Damon
8 Feb 25 +- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1Richard Damon
8 Feb 25 +* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH44Fred. Zwarts
8 Feb 25 i`* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH43olcott
8 Feb 25 i +* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH34Fred. Zwarts
9 Feb 25 i i`* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH33olcott
9 Feb 25 i i +* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH29Fred. Zwarts
9 Feb 25 i i i`* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH28olcott
9 Feb 25 i i i +* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH26Fred. Zwarts
9 Feb 25 i i i i`* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH25olcott
9 Feb 25 i i i i +* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH23Fred. Zwarts
9 Feb 25 i i i i i`* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH22olcott
9 Feb 25 i i i i i +- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1Richard Damon
9 Feb 25 i i i i i +* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH11Fred. Zwarts
9 Feb 25 i i i i i i`* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH10olcott
9 Feb 25 i i i i i i +* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH5Fred. Zwarts
9 Feb 25 i i i i i i i`* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH4olcott
9 Feb 25 i i i i i i i +- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1Richard Damon
10 Feb 25 i i i i i i i +- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1Fred. Zwarts
10 Feb 25 i i i i i i i `- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1joes
9 Feb 25 i i i i i i `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH4joes
9 Feb 25 i i i i i i  `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH3olcott
10 Feb 25 i i i i i i   +- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1Richard Damon
10 Feb 25 i i i i i i   `- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1joes
9 Feb 25 i i i i i `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH9joes
9 Feb 25 i i i i i  `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH8olcott
10 Feb 25 i i i i i   +* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH3Richard Damon
10 Feb 25 i i i i i   i`* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH2olcott
10 Feb 25 i i i i i   i `- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1Richard Damon
10 Feb 25 i i i i i   `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH4joes
10 Feb 25 i i i i i    `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH3olcott
10 Feb 25 i i i i i     +- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1Richard Damon
10 Feb 25 i i i i i     `- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1joes
9 Feb 25 i i i i `- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1joes
9 Feb 25 i i i `- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1Richard Damon
9 Feb 25 i i `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH3Richard Damon
9 Feb 25 i i  `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH2olcott
9 Feb 25 i i   `- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1Richard Damon
8 Feb 25 i +- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1Richard Damon
9 Feb 25 i `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH7Mikko
9 Feb 25 i  `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH6olcott
9 Feb 25 i   +- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1Richard Damon
10 Feb 25 i   `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH4Mikko
10 Feb 25 i    `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH3olcott
10 Feb 25 i     +- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1Richard Damon
11 Feb 25 i     `- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1Mikko
8 Feb 25 `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH438Mikko
8 Feb 25  `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH437olcott
8 Feb 25   +- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1Richard Damon
9 Feb 25   `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH435Mikko
9 Feb 25    `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH434olcott
9 Feb 25     +* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH2joes
9 Feb 25     i`- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1olcott
9 Feb 25     +- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1Richard Damon
10 Feb 25     `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH430Mikko
10 Feb 25      `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH429olcott
10 Feb 25       +- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1Richard Damon
11 Feb 25       `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH427Mikko
11 Feb 25        `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH426olcott
12 Feb 25         +- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1Richard Damon
12 Feb 25         `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH424Mikko
13 Feb 25          `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH423olcott
13 Feb 25           +* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH421Mikko
14 Feb 25           i`* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH420olcott
14 Feb 25           i +* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH137Richard Damon
14 Feb 25           i i`* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH136olcott
14 Feb 25           i i +* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH131joes
15 Feb 25           i i i`* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH130olcott
15 Feb 25           i i i +- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1Richard Damon
15 Feb 25           i i i `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH128joes
16 Feb 25           i i i  `* DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN127olcott
16 Feb 25           i i i   +- Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN1Richard Damon
16 Feb 25           i i i   +- Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN1Richard Damon
16 Feb 25           i i i   `* Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN124joes
16 Feb 25           i i i    +* Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN3olcott
16 Feb 25           i i i    i+- Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN1Richard Damon
16 Feb 25           i i i    i`- Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN1Fred. Zwarts
20 Feb 25           i i i    `* Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN120olcott
20 Feb 25           i i i     +* Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN31Mikko
20 Feb 25           i i i     i`* Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN30olcott
21 Feb 25           i i i     i +- Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN1Richard Damon
21 Feb 25           i i i     i `* Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN28Mikko
21 Feb 25           i i i     i  `* Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN27olcott
22 Feb 25           i i i     i   +- Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN1Richard Damon
22 Feb 25           i i i     i   `* Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN25Mikko
22 Feb 25           i i i     i    `* Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN24olcott
22 Feb 25           i i i     i     +* Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN3joes
22 Feb 25           i i i     i     i`* Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN2olcott
23 Feb 25           i i i     i     i `- Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN1Richard Damon
23 Feb 25           i i i     i     +- Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN1Richard Damon
23 Feb 25           i i i     i     `* Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN19Mikko
23 Feb 25           i i i     i      `* Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN18olcott
24 Feb 25           i i i     i       +- Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN1Richard Damon
24 Feb 25           i i i     i       `* Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN16Mikko
25 Feb 25           i i i     i        `* Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN15olcott
25 Feb 25           i i i     i         +- Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN1Richard Damon
25 Feb 25           i i i     i         +- Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN1dbush
25 Feb 25           i i i     i         +* Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN3joes
25 Feb 25           i i i     i         i`* Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN2olcott
25 Feb 25           i i i     i         i `- Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN1joes
25 Feb 25           i i i     i         +- Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN1Fred. Zwarts
25 Feb 25           i i i     i         `* Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN8Mikko
20 Feb 25           i i i     +* Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN87joes
20 Feb 25           i i i     `- Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN1Richard Damon
14 Feb 25           i i `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH4Richard Damon
14 Feb 25           i `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH282Mikko
13 Feb 25           `- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1Richard Damon

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