Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH

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Sujet : Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH
De : polcott333 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (olcott)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 27. Feb 2025, 05:34:31
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On 2/26/2025 9:50 AM, joes wrote:
Am Wed, 26 Feb 2025 08:45:50 -0600 schrieb olcott:
On 2/26/2025 3:29 AM, joes wrote:
Am Tue, 25 Feb 2025 20:13:43 -0600 schrieb olcott:
On 2/25/2025 5:41 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>
The behavior of DD emulated by HHH only refers to DD and the fact that
HHH emulates this DD.
On on hand, the simulator can have no influence on the execution.
On the other, that same simulator is part of the program.
You don't understand this simple entanglement.
Unless having no influence causes itself to never terminate then the one
influence that it must have is stopping the emulation of this input.
No. Changing the simulator changes the input, because the input calls
that simulator.
 
In other words you are requiring simulating termination analyzers
to get stuck in infinite execution. That is a stupid requirement.
--
Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

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8 Feb 25 * Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH485olcott
8 Feb 25 +- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1Richard Damon
8 Feb 25 +- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1Richard Damon
8 Feb 25 +* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH44Fred. Zwarts
8 Feb 25 i`* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH43olcott
8 Feb 25 i +* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH34Fred. Zwarts
9 Feb 25 i i`* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH33olcott
9 Feb 25 i i +* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH29Fred. Zwarts
9 Feb 25 i i i`* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH28olcott
9 Feb 25 i i i +* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH26Fred. Zwarts
9 Feb 25 i i i i`* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH25olcott
9 Feb 25 i i i i +* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH23Fred. Zwarts
9 Feb 25 i i i i i`* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH22olcott
9 Feb 25 i i i i i +- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1Richard Damon
9 Feb 25 i i i i i +* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH11Fred. Zwarts
9 Feb 25 i i i i i i`* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH10olcott
9 Feb 25 i i i i i i +* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH5Fred. Zwarts
9 Feb 25 i i i i i i i`* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH4olcott
9 Feb 25 i i i i i i i +- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1Richard Damon
10 Feb 25 i i i i i i i +- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1Fred. Zwarts
10 Feb 25 i i i i i i i `- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1joes
9 Feb 25 i i i i i i `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH4joes
9 Feb 25 i i i i i i  `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH3olcott
10 Feb 25 i i i i i i   +- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1Richard Damon
10 Feb 25 i i i i i i   `- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1joes
9 Feb 25 i i i i i `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH9joes
9 Feb 25 i i i i i  `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH8olcott
10 Feb 25 i i i i i   +* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH3Richard Damon
10 Feb 25 i i i i i   i`* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH2olcott
10 Feb 25 i i i i i   i `- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1Richard Damon
10 Feb 25 i i i i i   `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH4joes
10 Feb 25 i i i i i    `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH3olcott
10 Feb 25 i i i i i     +- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1Richard Damon
10 Feb 25 i i i i i     `- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1joes
9 Feb 25 i i i i `- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1joes
9 Feb 25 i i i `- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1Richard Damon
9 Feb 25 i i `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH3Richard Damon
9 Feb 25 i i  `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH2olcott
9 Feb 25 i i   `- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1Richard Damon
8 Feb 25 i +- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1Richard Damon
9 Feb 25 i `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH7Mikko
9 Feb 25 i  `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH6olcott
9 Feb 25 i   +- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1Richard Damon
10 Feb 25 i   `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH4Mikko
10 Feb 25 i    `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH3olcott
10 Feb 25 i     +- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1Richard Damon
11 Feb 25 i     `- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1Mikko
8 Feb 25 `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH438Mikko
8 Feb 25  `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH437olcott
8 Feb 25   +- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1Richard Damon
9 Feb 25   `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH435Mikko
9 Feb 25    `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH434olcott
9 Feb 25     +* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH2joes
9 Feb 25     i`- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1olcott
9 Feb 25     +- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1Richard Damon
10 Feb 25     `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH430Mikko
10 Feb 25      `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH429olcott
10 Feb 25       +- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1Richard Damon
11 Feb 25       `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH427Mikko
11 Feb 25        `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH426olcott
12 Feb 25         +- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1Richard Damon
12 Feb 25         `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH424Mikko
13 Feb 25          `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH423olcott
13 Feb 25           +* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH421Mikko
14 Feb 25           i`* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH420olcott
14 Feb 25           i +* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH137Richard Damon
14 Feb 25           i i`* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH136olcott
14 Feb 25           i i +* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH131joes
15 Feb 25           i i i`* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH130olcott
15 Feb 25           i i i +- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1Richard Damon
15 Feb 25           i i i `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH128joes
16 Feb 25           i i i  `* DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN127olcott
16 Feb 25           i i i   +- Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN1Richard Damon
16 Feb 25           i i i   +- Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN1Richard Damon
16 Feb 25           i i i   `* Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN124joes
16 Feb 25           i i i    +* Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN3olcott
16 Feb 25           i i i    i+- Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN1Richard Damon
16 Feb 25           i i i    i`- Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN1Fred. Zwarts
20 Feb 25           i i i    `* Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN120olcott
20 Feb 25           i i i     +* Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN31Mikko
20 Feb 25           i i i     i`* Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN30olcott
21 Feb 25           i i i     i +- Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN1Richard Damon
21 Feb 25           i i i     i `* Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN28Mikko
21 Feb 25           i i i     i  `* Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN27olcott
22 Feb 25           i i i     i   +- Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN1Richard Damon
22 Feb 25           i i i     i   `* Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN25Mikko
22 Feb 25           i i i     i    `* Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN24olcott
22 Feb 25           i i i     i     +* Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN3joes
22 Feb 25           i i i     i     i`* Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN2olcott
23 Feb 25           i i i     i     i `- Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN1Richard Damon
23 Feb 25           i i i     i     +- Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN1Richard Damon
23 Feb 25           i i i     i     `* Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN19Mikko
23 Feb 25           i i i     i      `* Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN18olcott
24 Feb 25           i i i     i       +- Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN1Richard Damon
24 Feb 25           i i i     i       `* Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN16Mikko
25 Feb 25           i i i     i        `* Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN15olcott
25 Feb 25           i i i     i         +- Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN1Richard Damon
25 Feb 25           i i i     i         +- Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN1dbush
25 Feb 25           i i i     i         +* Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN3joes
25 Feb 25           i i i     i         i`* Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN2olcott
25 Feb 25           i i i     i         i `- Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN1joes
25 Feb 25           i i i     i         +- Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN1Fred. Zwarts
25 Feb 25           i i i     i         `* Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN8Mikko
20 Feb 25           i i i     +* Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN87joes
20 Feb 25           i i i     `- Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN1Richard Damon
14 Feb 25           i i `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH4Richard Damon
14 Feb 25           i `* Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH282Mikko
13 Feb 25           `- Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH1Richard Damon

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