Re: The actual code of HHH

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Sujet : Re: The actual code of HHH
De : noreply (at) *nospam* example.org (joes)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 27. Feb 2025, 08:37:35
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Am Wed, 26 Feb 2025 22:54:32 -0600 schrieb olcott:
On 2/26/2025 5:47 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 2/26/25 6:09 PM, olcott wrote:
On 2/26/2025 3:52 PM, joes wrote:
Since there is so much talk around, but not really about it,
let's take a look:
https://github.com/plolcott/x86utm/blob/
48b4cbfeb3f486507276a5fc4e9b10875ab24dbf/Halt7.c#L1081 In line 1137,
we compute a flag:
u32 Root = Init_Halts_HH(&Aborted, &execution_trace, &decoded,
&code_end,
(u32)P, &master_state, &slave_state, &slave_stack);
In line 918, we find it basically checks for the magic number
**execution_trace==0x90909090. What is this unexplained value?
Where does it come from?

We then pass the saved flag in line 1143:
if (Decide_Halting_HH(&Aborted, &execution_trace, &decoded,
code_end, End_Of_Code, &master_state, &slave_state, &slave_stack,
Root)), defined in line 1030. Then we get a switch:
1059    if (Root)  // Master UTM halt decider
Line 1070 is then conditionally skipped:
Needs_To_Be_Aborted_HH((Decoded_Line_Of_Code*)**execution_trace);
defined in line 1012, which (on a jmp or call instruction) calls u32
Needs_To_Be_Aborted_Trace_HH(Decoded_Line_Of_Code* execution_trace,
Decoded_Line_Of_Code *current)
in line 964, where the abort logic lives. (It basically triggers on a
call or jump to itself.)
So we only abort depending on the address of the execution trace.
This makes no sense. Why is that?
>
DD emulated by HHH according to the behavior that the x86 machine code
of DD cannot possibly terminate normally thus HHH is infallibly
correct to report that this DD emulated by HHH (not any other DD in
the whole freaking universe) is not-terminating.
Don't dodge. What is line 918 for?

No, HHH doesn't see the actual behavior define by the x86 processor, as
it aborts its simulaiton before it gets there. You just don't know what
"correct" means,
If you cannot provide the correct first fifteen steps of DD correctly
emulated by HHH to show exactly how I am wrong then everyone that
understands these things will understand that YOUR REBUTTAL HAS NO
BASIS.
That depends entirely on the call to HHH.

I am writing this for my posthumous reviewers.
You will be forgotten.
--
Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math:
It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
26 Feb 25 * The actual code of HHH45joes
27 Feb 25 +* Re: The actual code of HHH32olcott
27 Feb 25 i+* Re: The actual code of HHH5Richard Damon
27 Feb 25 ii`* Re: The actual code of HHH4olcott
27 Feb 25 ii +* Re: The actual code of HHH2joes
27 Feb 25 ii i`- Re: The actual code of HHH1Richard Damon
27 Feb 25 ii `- Re: The actual code of HHH1Richard Damon
27 Feb 25 i`* Re: The actual code of HHH26Fred. Zwarts
27 Feb 25 i +* Re: The actual code of HHH19olcott
27 Feb 25 i i+* Re: The actual code of HHH8Fred. Zwarts
27 Feb 25 i ii`* Re: The actual code of HHH7olcott
28 Feb 25 i ii +- Re: The actual code of HHH1Richard Damon
28 Feb 25 i ii `* Re: The actual code of HHH5Fred. Zwarts
1 Mar 25 i ii  `* Re: The actual code of HHH4olcott
1 Mar 25 i ii   +- Re: The actual code of HHH1Fred. Zwarts
1 Mar 25 i ii   +- Re: The actual code of HHH1joes
1 Mar 25 i ii   `- Re: The actual code of HHH1Richard Damon
28 Feb 25 i i+- Re: The actual code of HHH1Richard Damon
28 Feb 25 i i`* Re: The actual code of HHH9Mikko
1 Mar 25 i i `* Re: The actual code of HHH8olcott
1 Mar 25 i i  +* Re: The actual code of HHH6Mikko
1 Mar 25 i i  i`* Re: The actual code of HHH5olcott
2 Mar 25 i i  i +* Re: The actual code of HHH3Richard Damon
2 Mar 25 i i  i i`* Re: The actual code of HHH2olcott
2 Mar 25 i i  i i `- Re: The actual code of HHH1Richard Damon
2 Mar 25 i i  i `- Re: The actual code of HHH1Mikko
1 Mar 25 i i  `- Re: The actual code of HHH1Richard Damon
27 Feb 25 i `* Re: The actual code of HHH6olcott
27 Feb 25 i  `* Re: The actual code of HHH5Fred. Zwarts
28 Feb 25 i   `* Re: The actual code of HHH4olcott
28 Feb 25 i    +- Re: The actual code of HHH1Richard Damon
28 Feb 25 i    +- Re: The actual code of HHH1dbush
28 Feb 25 i    `- Re: The actual code of HHH1Fred. Zwarts
27 Feb 25 `* Re: The actual code of HHH12Mikko
27 Feb 25  `* Re: The actual code of HHH11Mike Terry
27 Feb 25   +* Re: The actual code of HHH3olcott
27 Feb 25   i+- Re: The actual code of HHH1Fred. Zwarts
28 Feb 25   i`- Re: The actual code of HHH1Richard Damon
27 Feb 25   `* Re: The actual code of HHH7joes
28 Feb 25    `* Re: The actual code of HHH6Mike Terry
28 Feb 25     `* Re: The actual code of HHH5olcott
28 Feb 25      `* Re: The actual code of HHH4Richard Damon
1 Mar 25       `* Re: The actual code of HHH3olcott
1 Mar 25        +- Re: The actual code of HHH1Mikko
1 Mar 25        `- Re: The actual code of HHH1Richard Damon

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