Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals

Op 08.mrt.2025 om 02:48 schreef olcott:

On 3/7/2025 10:23 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:

Op 07.mrt.2025 om 16:22 schreef olcott:

On 3/7/2025 3:09 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:

Op 06.mrt.2025 om 21:11 schreef olcott:

On 3/6/2025 2:02 AM, Mikko wrote:

On 2025-03-04 14:26:39 +0000, olcott said:
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On 3/4/2025 4:36 AM, Mikko wrote:

On 2025-03-04 03:07:56 +0000, olcott said:
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int DD()
{
   int Halt_Status = HHH(DD);
   if (Halt_Status)
     HERE: goto HERE;
   return Halt_Status;
}
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_DD()
[00002133] 55         push ebp      ; housekeeping
[00002134] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
[00002136] 51         push ecx      ; make space for local
[00002137] 6833210000 push 00002133 ; push DD
[0000213c] e882f4ffff call 000015c3 ; call HHH(DD)
[00002141] 83c404     add esp,+04
[00002144] 8945fc     mov [ebp-04],eax
[00002147] 837dfc00   cmp dword [ebp-04],+00
[0000214b] 7402       jz 0000214f
[0000214d] ebfe       jmp 0000214d
[0000214f] 8b45fc     mov eax,[ebp-04]
[00002152] 8be5       mov esp,ebp
[00002154] 5d         pop ebp
[00002155] c3         ret
Size in bytes:(0035) [00002155]
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DD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly
reach its own "ret" instruction and terminate normally.
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The only valid rebuttal is to show all of the steps of
exactly how DD correctly emulated by HHH reaches its
own "ret" instruction.

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The question whether DD emulated by HHH exists is too uninteresting that
it would need a rebuttal, and so is the question that does it reach its
"ret" instruction if it exsists.
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DD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly
reach its own "ret" instruction and terminate normally.
*Proves that the input to HHH(DD) can be rejected as non-halting*

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As "DD correctly emulated by HHH" does not exist

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*No one has made any attempt to show that*
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There is no proof that it does exist.

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Failing to understand this code is less than no rebuttal at all.
https://github.com/plolcott/x86utm/blob/master/Halt7.c
Failing to understand that no HHH can correctly simulate itself is no

rebuttal at all.

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Failing to understand that Fred. Zwarts is only
a not very bright bot is my mistake.
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 Irrelevant. Again no rebuttal.
 So, since there is no rebuttal after two reactions from Olcott, I conclude that we agree that no HHH exists that correctly simulates itself up to the end.

HHH is correct when it reports that it could not simulate the input up to the end. An input that, when given for direct execution or a world- class simulator, has no problem to reach its end.
 What next? What is de advantage of knowing that there are simulators that are unable to complete the simulation? Didn't we know that already?