Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---

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Date : 09. Mar 2025, 10:55:31
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Am Sat, 08 Mar 2025 11:50:56 -0600 schrieb olcott:
On 3/8/2025 9:46 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
Op 08.mrt.2025 om 15:03 schreef olcott:
On 3/8/2025 2:47 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
Op 08.mrt.2025 om 02:49 schreef olcott:
On 3/7/2025 10:25 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
Op 07.mrt.2025 om 16:17 schreef olcott:
On 3/7/2025 2:59 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
Op 06.mrt.2025 om 21:13 schreef olcott:
On 3/6/2025 3:13 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
Op 06.mrt.2025 om 04:53 schreef olcott:
On 3/5/2025 9:31 PM, dbush wrote:
On 3/5/2025 10:17 PM, olcott wrote:
On 3/5/2025 7:10 PM, dbush wrote:

Apparently you don't understand that inputs to a simulating
termination analyzer specifying infinite recursion or recursive
emulation cannot possibly reach their own final state and terminate
normally.
If we agree, what is the problem?
We agree that HHH correctly reports that it cannot possibly bring the
simulation of itself to a correct end.

Yeah, so?

Why would we want to use such an analyser that reports that it fails
to complete the simulation?
Perhaps you incorrectly expect infinite loops to end?
Wrong. I understand perfectly that HHH cannot possible reach the end of
the simulation of itself and it correctly reports that it could not
complete the simulation.
DD specifies non-termination.
Now that is just wrong.

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Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math:
It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.

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4 Mar 25 * DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals366olcott
4 Mar 25 +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals4dbush
4 Mar 25 i`* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals3olcott
4 Mar 25 i +- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals1dbush
4 Mar 25 i `- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals1Fred. Zwarts
4 Mar 25 +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals301Fred. Zwarts
4 Mar 25 i`* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals300olcott
4 Mar 25 i +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals281Fred. Zwarts
4 Mar 25 i i`* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---280olcott
4 Mar 25 i i +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---9joes
4 Mar 25 i i i`* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---8olcott
4 Mar 25 i i i +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---5dbush
4 Mar 25 i i i i`* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---4olcott
4 Mar 25 i i i i `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---3dbush
5 Mar 25 i i i i  `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---2dbush
5 Mar 25 i i i i   `- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---1Richard Damon
5 Mar 25 i i i +- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---1Fred. Zwarts
5 Mar 25 i i i `- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---1joes
5 Mar 25 i i +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---267Richard Damon
5 Mar 25 i i i`* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---266olcott
5 Mar 25 i i i +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---264Richard Damon
5 Mar 25 i i i i`* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---263olcott
5 Mar 25 i i i i `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---262Richard Damon
5 Mar 25 i i i i  `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---261olcott
5 Mar 25 i i i i   +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---8joes
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5 Mar 25 i i i i   i i`- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---1olcott
6 Mar 25 i i i i   i `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---4Richard Damon
6 Mar 25 i i i i   i  `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---3olcott
6 Mar 25 i i i i   i   +- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---1dbush
6 Mar 25 i i i i   i   `- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---1Richard Damon
5 Mar 25 i i i i   `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---252Richard Damon
5 Mar 25 i i i i    `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---251olcott
5 Mar 25 i i i i     +- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---1dbush
5 Mar 25 i i i i     +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---248joes
5 Mar 25 i i i i     i`* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---247olcott
5 Mar 25 i i i i     i +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---244dbush
5 Mar 25 i i i i     i i+* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---198olcott
5 Mar 25 i i i i     i ii+* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---190dbush
5 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii`* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---189olcott
6 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---188dbush
6 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii  `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---187olcott
6 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii   `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---186dbush
6 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii    `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---185olcott
6 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii     `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---184dbush
6 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii      `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---183olcott
6 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---93dbush
6 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i`* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---92olcott
6 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---2dbush
6 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i i`- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---1dbush
6 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---89joes
6 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i  `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---88olcott
7 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i   `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---87Richard Damon
7 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i    `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---86olcott
7 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---74Fred. Zwarts
7 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i`* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---73olcott
8 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i +- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---1Richard Damon
8 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---71Mikko
8 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i  `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---70olcott
8 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---24dbush
8 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i`* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---23olcott
8 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---22dbush
8 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i  `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---21olcott
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i   +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---19dbush
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i   i`* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---18olcott
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i   i `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---17Richard Damon
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i   i  `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---16olcott
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i   i   `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---15Richard Damon
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i   i    `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---14olcott
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i   i     `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---13Richard Damon
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i   i      `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---12olcott
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i   i       `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---11Richard Damon
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i   i        `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---10olcott
10 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i   i         `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---9Richard Damon
10 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i   i          `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---8olcott
10 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i   i           `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---7Richard Damon
10 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i   i            `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---6olcott
10 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i   i             +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---3Richard Damon
11 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i   i             i`* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---2olcott
11 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i   i             i `- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---1Richard Damon
11 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i   i             +- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---1Mikko
11 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i   i             `- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---1joes
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i   `- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---1Mikko
8 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---9Fred. Zwarts
8 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i`* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---8olcott
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---7Fred. Zwarts
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i  `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---6olcott
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i   +- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---1Richard Damon
10 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i   `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---4Fred. Zwarts
10 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i    `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---3olcott
10 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i     +- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---1Fred. Zwarts
10 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i     `- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---1Richard Damon
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---28Richard Damon
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i`* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---27olcott
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---22dbush
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i i`* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---21olcott
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i i +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---19dbush
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i i i`* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---18olcott
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i i i +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---16dbush
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i i i i`* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---15olcott
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i i i `- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---1joes
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i i `- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---1Fred. Zwarts
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---3Richard Damon
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i `- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---1Fred. Zwarts
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---8Mikko
7 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---11Richard Damon
6 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---89Fred. Zwarts
6 Mar 25 i i i i     i ii`* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---7Richard Damon
6 Mar 25 i i i i     i i`* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---45Richard Damon
5 Mar 25 i i i i     i +- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---1wij
6 Mar 25 i i i i     i `- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---1Richard Damon
6 Mar 25 i i i i     `- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---1Richard Damon
5 Mar 25 i i i `- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---1Fred. Zwarts
5 Mar 25 i i `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---3Fred. Zwarts
5 Mar 25 i +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals9Richard Damon
6 Mar 25 i +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals8Mikko
6 Mar 25 i `- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals1Mikko
4 Mar 25 +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals13Bonita Montero
4 Mar 25 +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals29Mikko
4 Mar 25 +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals17Richard Damon
4 Mar 25 `- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals1Richard Damon

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