Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---

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Date : 09. Mar 2025, 11:00:27
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Am Sat, 08 Mar 2025 21:40:12 -0600 schrieb olcott:
On 3/8/2025 9:24 PM, dbush wrote:
On 3/8/2025 10:20 PM, olcott wrote:
>
*WHEN YOU UNDERSTAND THIS THEN YOU KNOW YOU WERE WRONG* Replacing the
code of HHH with an unconditional simulator and subsequently running
HHH(DD) cannot possibly reach its own "ret" instruction and terminate
normally because DD calls HHH(DD) in recursive emulation.

HHH is still not unconditional.

And when that code is not replaced HHH does a partial simulation of a
computation that halts, as demonstrated by DD halting when executed
directly.
That Straw-man deception looks ridiculously stupid when I challenge you
to provide the line-by-line machine code addresses of DD correctly
emulated by HHH such that DD reaches its own "ret" instruction and
terminates normally.
That's the thing, HHH can't do it.

--
Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math:
It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.

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4 Mar 25 * DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals366olcott
4 Mar 25 +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals4dbush
4 Mar 25 i`* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals3olcott
4 Mar 25 i +- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals1dbush
4 Mar 25 i `- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals1Fred. Zwarts
4 Mar 25 +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals301Fred. Zwarts
4 Mar 25 i`* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals300olcott
4 Mar 25 i +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals281Fred. Zwarts
4 Mar 25 i i`* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---280olcott
4 Mar 25 i i +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---9joes
4 Mar 25 i i i`* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---8olcott
4 Mar 25 i i i +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---5dbush
4 Mar 25 i i i i`* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---4olcott
4 Mar 25 i i i i `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---3dbush
5 Mar 25 i i i i  `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---2dbush
5 Mar 25 i i i i   `- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---1Richard Damon
5 Mar 25 i i i +- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---1Fred. Zwarts
5 Mar 25 i i i `- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---1joes
5 Mar 25 i i +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---267Richard Damon
5 Mar 25 i i i`* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---266olcott
5 Mar 25 i i i +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---264Richard Damon
5 Mar 25 i i i i`* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---263olcott
5 Mar 25 i i i i `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---262Richard Damon
5 Mar 25 i i i i  `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---261olcott
5 Mar 25 i i i i   +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---8joes
5 Mar 25 i i i i   i`* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---7olcott
5 Mar 25 i i i i   i +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---2joes
5 Mar 25 i i i i   i i`- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---1olcott
6 Mar 25 i i i i   i `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---4Richard Damon
6 Mar 25 i i i i   i  `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---3olcott
6 Mar 25 i i i i   i   +- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---1dbush
6 Mar 25 i i i i   i   `- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---1Richard Damon
5 Mar 25 i i i i   `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---252Richard Damon
5 Mar 25 i i i i    `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---251olcott
5 Mar 25 i i i i     +- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---1dbush
5 Mar 25 i i i i     +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---248joes
5 Mar 25 i i i i     i`* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---247olcott
5 Mar 25 i i i i     i +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---244dbush
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5 Mar 25 i i i i     i ii+* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---190dbush
5 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii`* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---189olcott
6 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---188dbush
6 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii  `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---187olcott
6 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii   `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---186dbush
6 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii    `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---185olcott
6 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii     `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---184dbush
6 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii      `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---183olcott
6 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---93dbush
6 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i`* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---92olcott
6 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---2dbush
6 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i i`- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---1dbush
6 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---89joes
6 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i  `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---88olcott
7 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i   `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---87Richard Damon
7 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i    `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---86olcott
7 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---74Fred. Zwarts
7 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i`* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---73olcott
8 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i +- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---1Richard Damon
8 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---71Mikko
8 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i  `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---70olcott
8 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---24dbush
8 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i`* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---23olcott
8 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---22dbush
8 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i  `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---21olcott
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i   +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---19dbush
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i   i`* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---18olcott
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i   i `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---17Richard Damon
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i   i  `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---16olcott
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i   i   `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---15Richard Damon
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i   i    `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---14olcott
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i   i     `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---13Richard Damon
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i   i      `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---12olcott
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i   i       `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---11Richard Damon
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10 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i   i            `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---6olcott
10 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i   i             +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---3Richard Damon
11 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i   i             i`* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---2olcott
11 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i   i             i `- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---1Richard Damon
11 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i   i             +- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---1Mikko
11 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i   i             `- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---1joes
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i   `- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---1Mikko
8 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---9Fred. Zwarts
8 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i`* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---8olcott
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---7Fred. Zwarts
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i  `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---6olcott
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i   +- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---1Richard Damon
10 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i   `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---4Fred. Zwarts
10 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i    `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---3olcott
10 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i     +- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---1Fred. Zwarts
10 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i     `- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---1Richard Damon
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---28Richard Damon
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i`* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---27olcott
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---22dbush
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i i`* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---21olcott
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i i +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---19dbush
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i i i`* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---18olcott
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i i i +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---16dbush
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i i i i`* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---15olcott
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i i i `- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---1joes
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i i `- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---1Fred. Zwarts
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---3Richard Damon
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   i `- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---1Fred. Zwarts
9 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     i   `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---8Mikko
7 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       i     `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---11Richard Damon
6 Mar 25 i i i i     i iii       `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---89Fred. Zwarts
6 Mar 25 i i i i     i ii`* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---7Richard Damon
6 Mar 25 i i i i     i i`* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---45Richard Damon
5 Mar 25 i i i i     i +- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---1wij
6 Mar 25 i i i i     i `- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---1Richard Damon
6 Mar 25 i i i i     `- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---1Richard Damon
5 Mar 25 i i i `- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---1Fred. Zwarts
5 Mar 25 i i `* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR---3Fred. Zwarts
5 Mar 25 i +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals9Richard Damon
6 Mar 25 i +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals8Mikko
6 Mar 25 i `- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals1Mikko
4 Mar 25 +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals13Bonita Montero
4 Mar 25 +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals29Mikko
4 Mar 25 +* Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals17Richard Damon
4 Mar 25 `- Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals1Richard Damon

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