Re: Why I need to cross-post to comp.lang.c

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Sujet : Re: Why I need to cross-post to comp.lang.c
De : mikko.levanto (at) *nospam* iki.fi (Mikko)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 10. May 2025, 08:15:04
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On 2025-05-09 03:01:40 +0000, olcott said:

On 5/8/2025 9:23 PM, Keith Thompson wrote:
Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> writes:
On 5/8/25 7:53 PM, olcott wrote:
[...]
void DDD()
{
  HHH(DDD);
  return;
}
We don't need to look at any of my code for me
to totally prove my point. For example when
the above DDD is correctly simulated by HHH
this simulated DDD cannot possibly reach its own
"return" instruction.
 And thus not correctly simulatd.
 Sorry, there is no "OS Exemption" to correct simulaiton;.
 Perhaps I've missed something.  I don't see anything in the above that
implies that HHH does not correctly simulate DDD.  Richard, you've read
far more of olcott's posts than I have, so perhaps you can clarify.
 If we assume that HHH correctly simulates DDD, then the above code is
equivalent to:
 void DDD()
{
DDD();
return;
}
 which is a trivial case of infinite recursion.  As far as I can tell,
assuming that DDD() is actually called at some point, neither the
outer execution of DDD nor the nested (simulated) execution of DDD
can reach the return statement.  Infinite recursion might either
cause a stack overflow and a probable program crash, or an unending
loop if the compiler implements tail call optimization.
 I see no contradiction, just an uninteresting case of infinite
recursion, something that's well understood by anyone with a
reasonable level of programming experience.  (And it has nothing to
do with the halting problem as far as I can tell, though of course
olcott has discussed the halting problem elsewhere.)
 Richard, what am I missing?
 
*****
Now you are seeing what I was talking about.
Now you are seeing why I needed to cross post
to comp.lang.c
What were you told in comp.lang.c that you were not told in comp.theory?
--
Mikko

Date Sujet#  Auteur
10 May 25 * Re: Why I need to cross-post to comp.lang.c25Mikko
10 May 25 +* Re: Why I need to cross-post to comp.lang.c2Richard Heathfield
10 May 25 i`- Re: Why I need to cross-post to comp.lang.c1Richard Damon
10 May 25 `* Re: Why I need to cross-post to comp.lang.c --- CORRECTLY REFUTED22olcott
10 May 25  +- Re: Why I need to cross-post to comp.lang.c --- CORRECTLY REFUTED1wij
10 May 25  +- Re: Why I need to cross-post to comp.lang.c --- CORRECTLY REFUTED1Fred. Zwarts
10 May 25  +- Re: Why I need to cross-post to comp.lang.c --- CORRECTLY REFUTED1Richard Damon
11 May 25  `* Re: Why I need to cross-post to comp.lang.c --- CORRECTLY REFUTED18Mikko
11 May 25   `* Re: Why I need to cross-post to comp.lang.c --- CORRECTLY REFUTED17olcott
11 May 25    +* Re: Why I need to cross-post to comp.lang.c --- CORRECTLY REFUTED2dbush
11 May 25    i`- Re: Why I need to cross-post to comp.lang.c --- CORRECTLY REFUTED1Keith Thompson
11 May 25    +- Re: Why I need to cross-post to comp.lang.c --- CORRECTLY REFUTED1Richard Damon
12 May 25    `* Re: Why I need to cross-post to comp.lang.c --- CORRECTLY REFUTED13Mikko
12 May 25     `* Re: Why I need to cross-post to comp.lang.c --- CORRECTLY REFUTED12olcott
12 May 25      +* Re: Why I need to cross-post to comp.lang.c --- CORRECTLY REFUTED9dbush
12 May 25      i`* Re: Why I need to cross-post to comp.lang.c --- CORRECTLY REFUTED8olcott
12 May 25      i +* Re: Why I need to cross-post to comp.lang.c --- CORRECTLY REFUTED6dbush
12 May 25      i i`* Re: Why I need to cross-post to comp.lang.c --- CORRECTLY REFUTED5olcott
12 May 25      i i `* Re: Why I need to cross-post to comp.lang.c --- CORRECTLY REFUTED4dbush
12 May 25      i i  `* Re: Why I need to cross-post to comp.lang.c --- CORRECTLY REFUTED3olcott
12 May 25      i i   +- Re: Why I need to cross-post to comp.lang.c --- CORRECTLY REFUTED1dbush
13 May 25      i i   `- Re: Why I need to cross-post to comp.lang.c --- CORRECTLY REFUTED1Mikko
13 May 25      i `- Re: Why I need to cross-post to comp.lang.c --- CORRECTLY REFUTED1Richard Damon
13 May 25      +- Re: Why I need to cross-post to comp.lang.c --- CORRECTLY REFUTED1Richard Damon
13 May 25      `- Re: Why I need to cross-post to comp.lang.c --- CORRECTLY REFUTED1Mikko

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