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On 5/11/2025 4:20 AM, Mikko wrote:Nowhere is said that a slave stack is disposed. Apparently no emulationOn 2025-05-10 15:33:50 +0000, olcott said:You must use the machine addresses to see what code
On 5/10/2025 2:40 AM, Mikko wrote:You may call it possible or impossible but either way, HHH doesOn 2025-05-10 01:26:54 +0000, olcott said:It is not impossible for DDD to be emulated
void DDD()If you do the impossible then everything happens, including
{
HHH(DDD);
return;
}
_DDD()
[00002172] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping
[00002173] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping
[00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD
[0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD)
[0000217f] 83c404 add esp,+04
[00002182] 5d pop ebp
[00002183] c3 ret
Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]
Try to show how DDD emulated by HHH according to the
rules of the x86 language reaches its own "ret"
instruction final halt state.
the reaching of the final "ret" instruction. In this case
the impossible is a correct emulation of DDD by HHH according
to the rules of the x86 language.
by HHH according to the rules of the x86 language.
not emulate the final "ret" isntruction.
Here it is actually doing this.Apparently you said that the last "ret" is not acutally emulated but
_DDD()
[0000219e] 55 push ebp
[0000219f] 8bec mov ebp,esp
[000021a1] 689e210000 push 0000219e
[000021a6] e843f4ffff call 000015ee
[000021ab] 83c404 add esp,+04
[000021ae] 5d pop ebp
[000021af] c3 ret
Size in bytes:(0018) [000021af]
_main()
[000021be] 55 push ebp
[000021bf] 8bec mov ebp,esp
[000021c1] 689e210000 push 0000219e
[000021c6] e823f4ffff call 000015ee
[000021cb] 83c404 add esp,+04
[000021ce] 50 push eax
[000021cf] 685f070000 push 0000075f
[000021d4] e8a5e5ffff call 0000077e
[000021d9] 83c408 add esp,+08
[000021dc] 33c0 xor eax,eax
[000021de] 5d pop ebp
[000021df] c3 ret
Size in bytes:(0034) [000021df]
machine stack stack machine assembly
address address data code language
======== ======== ======== ============== =============
[000021be][00103872][00000000] 55 push ebp
[000021bf][00103872][00000000] 8bec mov ebp,esp
[000021c1][0010386e][0000219e] 689e210000 push 0000219e // push DDD
[000021c6][0010386a][000021cb] e823f4ffff call 000015ee // call HHH
New slave_stack at:103916
Begin Local Halt Decider Simulation Execution Trace Stored at:11391e
[0000219e][0011390e][00113912] 55 push ebp
[0000219f][0011390e][00113912] 8bec mov ebp,esp
[000021a1][0011390a][0000219e] 689e210000 push 0000219e // push DDD
[000021a6][00113906][000021ab] e843f4ffff call 000015ee // call HHH
The following shows the result of HHH emulating
itself emulating DDD. x86utm is a cooperative
multi-tasking operating system.
New slave_stack at:14e33e
[0000219e][0015e336][0015e33a] 55 push ebp
[0000219f][0015e336][0015e33a] 8bec mov ebp,esp
[000021a1][0015e332][0000219e] 689e210000 push 0000219e // push DDD
[000021a6][0015e32e][000021ab] e843f4ffff call 000015ee // call HHH
Local Halt Decider: Infinite Recursion Detected Simulation Stopped
[000021cb][00103872][00000000] 83c404 add esp,+04
[000021ce][0010386e][00000000] 50 push eax
[000021cf][0010386a][0000075f] 685f070000 push 0000075f
[000021d4][0010386a][0000075f] e8a5e5ffff call 0000077e
Input_Halts = 0
[000021d9][00103872][00000000] 83c408 add esp,+08
[000021dc][00103872][00000000] 33c0 xor eax,eax
[000021de][00103876][00000018] 5d pop ebp
[000021df][0010387a][00000000] c3 ret
Number of Instructions Executed(10069) == 150 Pages
only its emulation is emulated.
Your trace lacks the indication of which lines are actually trace lines
and which are output lines from the emulated program that only look like
trace lines.
is being emulated. New slave_stack indicate that
a new process context has been created. Code following
that is being emulated.
New slave_stack at:14e33e indicates that HHH isBut not to the completion of the emulated emulation.
about to emulate itself emulating DDD.
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