Re: Overcoming the proof of undecidability of the Halting Problem by a simple example in C

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Sujet : Re: Overcoming the proof of undecidability of the Halting Problem by a simple example in C
De : polcott333 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (olcott)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 17. May 2025, 04:49:09
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On 5/16/2025 10:33 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
On 17/05/2025 03:55, olcott wrote:
On 5/16/2025 9:44 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
On 17/05/2025 03:24, olcott wrote:
 <snip>
 
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When you dishonestly remove the context that you are
replying to fools might think that your rebuttal has merit.
>
The context you claim was 'dishonestly' removed is:
>
void DDD()
{
    HHH(DDD);
    return;
}
>
with which we are all too, too familiar.
>
The context merely shows that the only information HHH receives is a pointer to a function.
>
That's not enough for HHH to be able to do what you claim for it *within the rules of C*.
>
>
Unless there is also an interpreter also written in C.
 No, not even then, for reasons I have already explained.
 
Any competent C programmer would know that C programs
can be simulated by C interpreters. If they don't know
this then that are not competent.
 A C interpreter (eg CH or CINT, both of which have Wiki pages, in case you're interested) doesn't simulate C code. It interprets C code. You don't pass C code to HHH in the form of a char * - "void DDD()\n{\n\tHHH(DDD);\n\treturn;\n}\n", say - to HHH(). You pass a function pointer. All HHH() can do with that pointer value is:
 
It is possible to create a C function that
simulates the source-code of other C functions.
The essential idea of this is a C interpreter.
The actual HHH uses x86 emulation that is way
over most peoples heads. When I said that HHH
simulates DDD reviewers are not free to ignore
the word "simulate".
They do this because they only glance at a
couple of my words to artificially contrive
some fake rebuttal.
--
Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

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