The old college try (was: Re: Bad faith and dishonesty)

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Sujet : The old college try (was: Re: Bad faith and dishonesty)
De : vallor (at) *nospam* cultnix.org (vallor)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 30. May 2025, 10:56:06
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On Fri, 30 May 2025 10:14:53 +0100, Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk>
wrote in <101bsud$de5t$1@dont-email.me>:

On 30/05/2025 10:03, Mikko wrote:
On 2025-05-29 16:42:09 +0000, olcott said:
 
<snip>
 
We must achieve 100% complete closure on each point one-at-a-time and
not endlessly flit back and forth across many different points never
achieving closure on any of them.
 
You are not and never have been asked to endlessly flit back and forth.
But you are doing it anyway. You have been adviced how to to something
more useful but you have never done.
 
 
Quite so. At some point, one must draw a veil across the nonsense. I
think I've reached that point. I do not plan to reply to any more of Mr
Olcott's articles. (Road to hell and that, but that's the plan.)

It's like jousting windmills.

You posted in good faith, and explained it to him...only
to have him ignore your multi-point refutations.  (By his
own admission -- he says he only answers the first point.)

Olcott isn't an honest correspondent.  The value I see in this
'froup has been reading the responses.

 * * *

However:  I actually had an on-topic post about
time-for-space, a term I learned from ChatGPT by
describing the pre-computing of values to save time
to the little beasty.

In the case I gave it, O(n) becomes O(1).  It was
a "trick" I figured out on the Commodore PET in
the 80's:  using the numeric keypad as an index
for arrays to add x/y values to compute a player's
movement in a rudimentary game I wrote.  (In BASIC,
I'm ashamed to say. ;)  The array computation replaced
a bunch of if-then statements, and it ran a lot faster
after that.

Anyway, after that learning experience, I always knew about
the principle, (trading space for time) but didn't know what
it was called, even though it has showed up over and over again.
ChatGPT set me straight on what to call it.

Another example:  I once wrote a library to cache /etc/passwd
and /etc/shadow in memory to speed up our RADIUS server's getpwnam()
and getspnam() calls, trading RAM space for decreased time to look
up entries.  (In the mid-90's, this was a big deal.  Wouldn't be
much of a deal today with the "db" lookups that can be used through
nsswitch.conf(5)   ).

--
-v

Date Sujet#  Auteur
25 May 25 * Re: Bad faith and dishonesty289Mikko
25 May 25 `* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty288olcott
25 May 25  +* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty127Fred. Zwarts
25 May 25  i`* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty126olcott
25 May 25  i +* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty96Alan Mackenzie
25 May 25  i i`* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty95olcott
25 May 25  i i +* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty87dbush
25 May 25  i i i`* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty86olcott
25 May 25  i i i `* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty85dbush
25 May 25  i i i  `* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty84olcott
25 May 25  i i i   +- Re: Bad faith and dishonesty1dbush
25 May 25  i i i   +* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty73Alan Mackenzie
25 May 25  i i i   i`* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty72olcott
25 May 25  i i i   i `* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty71dbush
25 May 25  i i i   i  `* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty70olcott
25 May 25  i i i   i   +- Re: Bad faith and dishonesty1dbush
25 May 25  i i i   i   +* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty5Richard Damon
25 May 25  i i i   i   i`* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty4olcott
26 May 25  i i i   i   i `* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty3Richard Damon
26 May 25  i i i   i   i  `* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty2olcott
26 May 25  i i i   i   i   `- Re: Bad faith and dishonesty1Richard Damon
26 May 25  i i i   i   `* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty63Mike Terry
26 May 25  i i i   i    `* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty62olcott
26 May 25  i i i   i     `* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty61Fred. Zwarts
26 May 25  i i i   i      `* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty60olcott
26 May 25  i i i   i       +* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty58Fred. Zwarts
26 May 25  i i i   i       i`* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty57olcott
26 May 25  i i i   i       i `* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty56Fred. Zwarts
26 May 25  i i i   i       i  `* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty55olcott
26 May 25  i i i   i       i   `* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty54Fred. Zwarts
26 May 25  i i i   i       i    `* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty53olcott
26 May 25  i i i   i       i     `* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty52Fred. Zwarts
26 May 25  i i i   i       i      `* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty51olcott
27 May 25  i i i   i       i       `* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty50Fred. Zwarts
27 May 25  i i i   i       i        `* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty49olcott
27 May 25  i i i   i       i         +- Re: Bad faith and dishonesty1Richard Damon
28 May 25  i i i   i       i         `* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty47Fred. Zwarts
28 May 25  i i i   i       i          `* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty46olcott
28 May 25  i i i   i       i           +* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty43Fred. Zwarts
28 May 25  i i i   i       i           i+* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty39olcott
29 May 25  i i i   i       i           ii`* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty38Mikko
29 May 25  i i i   i       i           ii `* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty37olcott
29 May 25  i i i   i       i           ii  +* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty35Fred. Zwarts
29 May 25  i i i   i       i           ii  i`* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty34olcott
29 May 25  i i i   i       i           ii  i +* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty3dbush
29 May 25  i i i   i       i           ii  i i`* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty2olcott
29 May 25  i i i   i       i           ii  i i `- Re: Bad faith and dishonesty1dbush
29 May 25  i i i   i       i           ii  i +* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty7Mike Terry
29 May 25  i i i   i       i           ii  i i`* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty6olcott
29 May 25  i i i   i       i           ii  i i `* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty5dbush
29 May 25  i i i   i       i           ii  i i  `* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty4olcott
29 May 25  i i i   i       i           ii  i i   `* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty3dbush
29 May 25  i i i   i       i           ii  i i    `* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty2olcott
29 May 25  i i i   i       i           ii  i i     `- Re: Bad faith and dishonesty1dbush
29 May 25  i i i   i       i           ii  i +* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty7Richard Heathfield
29 May 25  i i i   i       i           ii  i i`* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty6olcott
29 May 25  i i i   i       i           ii  i i `* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty5Richard Heathfield
29 May 25  i i i   i       i           ii  i i  `* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty4olcott
29 May 25  i i i   i       i           ii  i i   `* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty3Richard Heathfield
29 May 25  i i i   i       i           ii  i i    `* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty2olcott
29 May 25  i i i   i       i           ii  i i     `- Re: Bad faith and dishonesty1Richard Heathfield
30 May 25  i i i   i       i           ii  i +* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty7Fred. Zwarts
30 May 25  i i i   i       i           ii  i i`* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty6olcott
31 May 25  i i i   i       i           ii  i i +- Re: Bad faith and dishonesty1Richard Damon
31 May 25  i i i   i       i           ii  i i `* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty4Mikko
31 May 25  i i i   i       i           ii  i i  +- Re: Bad faith and dishonesty1Richard Heathfield
31 May 25  i i i   i       i           ii  i i  `* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty2olcott
31 May 25  i i i   i       i           ii  i i   `- Re: Bad faith and dishonesty1Richard Damon
30 May 25  i i i   i       i           ii  i `* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty9Mikko
30 May 25  i i i   i       i           ii  i  +* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty5Richard Heathfield
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30 May 25  i i i   i       i           ii  i  `* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty3olcott
31 May 25  i i i   i       i           ii  i   `* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty2Mikko
31 May 25  i i i   i       i           ii  i    `- Re: Bad faith and dishonesty1olcott
30 May 25  i i i   i       i           ii  `- Re: Bad faith and dishonesty1Mikko
29 May 25  i i i   i       i           i`* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty3Mike Terry
29 May 25  i i i   i       i           i `* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty2olcott
29 May 25  i i i   i       i           i  `- Re: Bad faith and dishonesty1Richard Damon
29 May 25  i i i   i       i           +- Re: Bad faith and dishonesty1Mikko
29 May 25  i i i   i       i           `- Re: Bad faith and dishonesty1Richard Damon
26 May 25  i i i   i       `- Re: Bad faith and dishonesty1Richard Damon
25 May 25  i i i   `* Re: Atheism and morality9olcott
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26 May 25  i i i     `* Re: Atheism and morality7olcott
26 May 25  i i i      +* Re: Atheism and morality4Fred. Zwarts
26 May 25  i i i      i`* Re: Atheism and morality3olcott
26 May 25  i i i      i +- Re: Atheism and morality1Fred. Zwarts
27 May 25  i i i      i `- Re: Atheism and morality1Mikko
26 May 25  i i i      +- Re: Atheism and morality1Richard Damon
27 May 25  i i i      `- Re: Atheism and morality1Mikko
25 May 25  i i +- Re: Bad faith and dishonesty1Fred. Zwarts
25 May 25  i i `* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty6Alan Mackenzie
25 May 25  i i  `* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty5olcott
25 May 25  i i   +* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty3Alan Mackenzie
25 May 25  i i   i`* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty2olcott
26 May 25  i i   i `- Re: Bad faith and dishonesty1Richard Damon
26 May 25  i i   `- Re: Bad faith and dishonesty1Richard Damon
25 May 25  i +- Re: Bad faith and dishonesty1Richard Damon
25 May 25  i `* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty28Fred. Zwarts
25 May 25  +- Re: Bad faith and dishonesty1Richard Damon
26 May 25  `* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty159Mikko

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