Re: What is the best way for termination analyzers to handle pathological inputs?

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Sujet : Re: What is the best way for termination analyzers to handle pathological inputs?
De : mikko.levanto (at) *nospam* iki.fi (Mikko)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 11. Jun 2025, 09:52:30
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On 2025-06-10 17:22:50 +0000, olcott said:

On 6/10/2025 2:33 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2025-06-09 21:14:58 +0000, olcott said:
 
The official "received view" of this is that the best
we can possibly do is to do nothing and give up.
 There is no official view about "the best". What is the best
depends on what one needs and wants. Some may think that the
best they can do is to waste their life in trying to do the
impossible.
 It is not at all impossible to create a termination
analyzer that reports on the behavior specified
by the input to HHH(DDD).
Usually the requirement is that if a termination analysis reports
anything that report must be correct. What HHH(DDD) reports is
not correct.

It was never correct to define a termination analyzer any other way.
There are many correct definitions. If the term "termination analyzer"
is defined to mean something then it means that thing in the scope of
the definition (which typically is the opus where the definition is).
That a term is definied differently from how you want it to be defined
does not make the definition wrong.
--
Mikko

Date Sujet#  Auteur
9 Jun 25 * What is the best way for termination analyzers to handle pathological inputs?22olcott
10 Jun 25 +- Re: What is the best way for termination analyzers to handle pathological inputs?1Richard Damon
10 Jun 25 `* Re: What is the best way for termination analyzers to handle pathological inputs?20Mikko
10 Jun 25  +* Re: What is the best way for termination analyzers to handle pathological inputs?6olcott
10 Jun 25  i+- Re: What is the best way for termination analyzers to handle pathological inputs?1Richard Damon
11 Jun 25  i`* Re: What is the best way for termination analyzers to handle pathological inputs?4Mikko
11 Jun 25  i `* Re: What is the best way for termination analyzers to handle pathological inputs?3olcott
11 Jun 25  i  +- Re: What is the best way for termination analyzers to handle pathological inputs?1Richard Damon
13 Jun 25  i  `- Re: What is the best way for termination analyzers to handle pathological inputs?1Mikko
10 Jun 25  `* Re: What is the best way for termination analyzers to handle pathological inputs?13olcott
10 Jun 25   +* Re: What is the best way for termination analyzers to handle pathological inputs?11Richard Damon
10 Jun 25   i+* Re: What is the best way for termination analyzers to handle pathological inputs?2olcott
11 Jun 25   ii`- Re: What is the best way for termination analyzers to handle pathological inputs?1Richard Damon
11 Jun 25   i`* Re: What is the best way for termination analyzers to handle pathological inputs?8Richard Damon
11 Jun 25   i +* Re: What is the best way for termination analyzers to handle pathological inputs?2olcott
11 Jun 25   i i`- Re: What is the best way for termination analyzers to handle pathological inputs?1Richard Damon
11 Jun 25   i `* Re: What is the best way for termination analyzers to handle pathological inputs?5Richard Damon
12 Jun 25   i  +* Re: What is the best way for termination analyzers to handle pathological inputs?2olcott
12 Jun 25   i  i`- Re: What is the best way for termination analyzers to handle pathological inputs?1Richard Damon
12 Jun 25   i  +- Re: What is the best way for termination analyzers to handle pathological inputs?1joes
12 Jun 25   i  `- Re: What is the best way for termination analyzers to handle pathological inputs?1Richard Damon
11 Jun 25   `- Re: What is the best way for termination analyzers to handle pathological inputs?1Mikko

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