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On 6/13/2025 5:51 AM, Mikko wrote:Nice to see that you don't disagree.On 2025-06-12 15:30:05 +0000, olcott said:void DDD()
int DD()Strachey only informally presents the idea of the proof. Formalism
{
int Halt_Status = HHH(DD);
if (Halt_Status)
HERE: goto HERE;
return Halt_Status;
}
It is a verified fact that DD() *is* one of the forms
of the counter-example input as such an input would
be encoded in C. Christopher Strachey wrote his in CPL.
// rec routine P
// §L :if T[P] go to L
// Return §
// https://academic.oup.com/comjnl/article/7/4/313/354243
void Strachey_P()
{
L: if (HHH(Strachey_P)) goto L;
return;
}
https://academic.oup.com/comjnl/article-abstract/7/4/313/354243? redirectedFrom=fulltext
and details needed in a rigorous proof is not shown.
{
HHH(DDD);
return;
}
_DDD()
[00002192] 55 push ebp
[00002193] 8bec mov ebp,esp
[00002195] 6892210000 push 00002192
[0000219a] e833f4ffff call 000015d2 // call HHH
[0000219f] 83c404 add esp,+04
[000021a2] 5d pop ebp
[000021a3] c3 ret
Size in bytes:(0018) [000021a3]
Exactly how would DDD correctly emulated by HHH
reach its own "ret" instruction final halt state?
The directly executed HHH emulates DDD that calls
HHH(DDD) to emulate DDD again until this directly
executed HHH sees the repeating pattern then aborts
its simulation of DDD causing every level of
emulation to immediately stop.
It is a self-evident truth that required actual comprehensionIt *is* a verified fact DD correctly simulated by HHHThat "cannot possibly" is not a part of any verifiable fact as
cannot possibly reach its own "return" statement
final halt state.
it is not sufficiently well-defined for a verification.
to be complete proof.
2 + 3 = 5 is another example of a self-evident truth.
Some people could say "I doan beeve in nummers". That
is not any rebuttal.
WhatHHH emulates DDD that calls HHH(DDD)
cannot be stated cearly and unambiguoulsy cannot be a verified
fact.
that emulates DDD that calls HHH(DDD)
that emulates DDD that calls HHH(DDD)
that emulates DDD that calls HHH(DDD)...
until the outer HHH sees the repeating
pattern and aborts its own emulation thus
killing off every other emulation.
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