Re: How do simulating termination analyzers work?

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Sujet : Re: How do simulating termination analyzers work?
De : richard (at) *nospam* damon-family.org (Richard Damon)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 19. Jun 2025, 02:22:52
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On 6/18/25 10:50 AM, olcott wrote:
On 6/18/2025 9:05 AM, joes wrote:
Am Wed, 18 Jun 2025 08:46:16 -0500 schrieb olcott:
On 6/18/2025 5:12 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
Op 18.jun.2025 om 03:54 schreef olcott:
On 6/17/2025 8:19 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 6/17/25 4:34 PM, olcott wrote:
>
When it is understood that HHH does simulate itself simulating DDD
then any first year CS student knows that when each of the above are
correctly simulated by HHH that none of them ever stop running
unless aborted.
>
WHich means that the code for HHH is part of the input, and thus
there is just ONE HHH in existance at this time.
Since that code aborts its simulation to return the answer that you
claim, you are just lying that it did a correct simulation (which in
this context means complete)
>
*none of them ever stop running unless aborted*
>
All of them do abort and their simulation does not need an abort.
>
*It is not given that any of them abort*
Huh? They contain the code to abort, even if it is not simulated.
>
 *none of them ever stop running unless aborted* yes or no?
 The favorite fake rebuttal of changing the subject
will not be tolerated.
 
Except for any of them simulated by an HHH that does abort.
Those will stop running when correctly simulated.
You claim makes as much sense as the claim that you get all the answer right if you stop before you make an error, and then just stop.
Sorry, but the HHH that stop, haven't done what is needed to make their work applicable.
Sorry, you are just proving your stupidity.

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