Re: Damon's claim about lying to AI

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Sujet : Re: Damon's claim about lying to AI
De : richard (at) *nospam* damon-family.org (Richard Damon)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 28. Jun 2025, 02:11:19
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On 6/27/25 6:45 PM, Mr Flibble wrote:
Damon seems to be under the illusion that you can lie to AIs:
Of course you can.

 Me: The colour red is the same as the colour yellow.
 ChatGPT:
  From a physical and perceptual standpoint, the statement "The colour red
is the same as the colour yellow" is incorrect.
Thus showning that SOME things it knows better about.
WHen Olcott talks about the behavior of his HHH, that isn't something that the LLM has learned a lot about from other sources, and thus it can't detect the error.

 Here's why:
 * **Physically (in terms of light wavelengths):**
    * Red light has a wavelength of about **620–750 nm**.
   * Yellow light has a wavelength of about **570–590 nm**.
     These are distinctly different parts of the visible spectrum.
 * **Perceptually (how we see them):**
    * Red is perceived as a warm, bold hue often associated with intensity
or warning.
   * Yellow is also warm, but is perceived as brighter and is often
associated with cheerfulness or caution.
     The human eye distinguishes them clearly.
 If you're making this statement metaphorically or in the context of a
colorblind individual's perception, or for symbolic reasons (e.g. in art
or language), feel free to clarify and I can explore that angle too.
 /Flibble
Maybe you should learn a bit about the limitations of things like ChatGPT.
Here is a good video about them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45ffs9s3DTc

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28 Jun 25 o Re: Damon's claim about lying to AI1Richard Damon

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