Re: Turing machine HHH is not allowed to report on the behavior of the directly executed DDD()

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Sujet : Re: Turing machine HHH is not allowed to report on the behavior of the directly executed DDD()
De : polcott333 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (olcott)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 01. Jul 2025, 12:43:10
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On 7/1/2025 2:46 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2025-06-30 17:18:49 +0000, olcott said:
 
On 6/30/2025 3:05 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2025-06-29 13:17:19 +0000, olcott said:
>
When it is required that a Turing Machine halt decider is to
report on the behavior of another directly executing Turing
machine this requirement is incorrect.
>
No, it is not.
 
When we know that no directly executing Turing machine
D can possibly be an input to another Turing Machine H
this means that H cannot possibly compute the mapping
from D to the behavior of D.
 Not true. In order to compute the required mapping from D to
some feature of the behavour of D only sufficient information
about D is needed. For example, an universal Turing machine
cannot observe a direct execution of D but can reproduce the
result of a direct execution of D.
 
Ah good point. Back to the HHH1(DDD) and HHH(DDD).
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