Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof

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Sujet : Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof
De : mikko.levanto (at) *nospam* iki.fi (Mikko)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 09. Jul 2025, 09:29:49
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On 2025-07-08 14:18:32 +0000, olcott said:

On 7/8/2025 2:41 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2025-07-07 13:57:28 +0000, olcott said:
 
On 7/7/2025 3:20 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2025-07-06 14:48:45 +0000, olcott said:
 
On 7/6/2025 3:30 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2025-07-05 15:18:46 +0000, olcott said:
 
On 7/5/2025 4:06 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2025-07-04 20:16:34 +0000, olcott said:
 
https://claude.ai/share/48aab578-aec3-44a5-8bb3-6851e0f8b02e
 Perhaps an artificial idiot can think better than you but it does
not think better than most participants of these discussions.
 Yet you cannot point out any actual error.
 There is no error in your above quoted words.
 
What is not provable is not analytic truth.
 
I totally agree. Not only must it be provable it must
be provable semantically not merely syntactically.
 In order to prove anything a proof must be syntactically correct.
Then the conclusion is semantically true if the premises are.
 Not exactly. Some of logic is wrong.
 There is no example where ordinary logic derives a false conclusion from
true premises. Other logics may contain mistakes so they should not be
used unless proven valid.
 The one that I have in mind derives a true conclusion
from false premises.
 True conclusion from false premeises is fairly common. But that is not
relevant.
 It proves that logic is fundamentally incorrect on this point.
Logic must be a sequence of truth preserving operations or it is wrong.
Your straw man logic is incorrect. Whenever ordinary logic has been
compared to reality it is found to be correct.
--
Mikko

Date Sujet#  Auteur
4 Jul21:16 * Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof33olcott
4 Jul21:24 +* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof9Richard Damon
4 Jul23:08 i`* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof8olcott
5 Jul08:43 i +* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof4Fred. Zwarts
5 Jul16:28 i i`* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof3olcott
6 Jul01:14 i i +- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon
6 Jul10:15 i i `- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Fred. Zwarts
5 Jul13:54 i `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof3Richard Damon
5 Jul16:37 i  `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof2olcott
6 Jul01:20 i   `- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon
5 Jul09:46 +- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Mikko
5 Jul10:06 `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof22Mikko
5 Jul16:18  `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof21olcott
6 Jul09:30   `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof20Mikko
6 Jul15:48    `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof19olcott
6 Jul17:41     +- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon
7 Jul09:20     `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof17Mikko
7 Jul14:57      `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof16olcott
8 Jul00:10       +- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon
8 Jul08:41       `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof14Mikko
8 Jul15:18        `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof13olcott
9 Jul09:29         +* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof11Mikko
9 Jul13:31         i`* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof10olcott
9 Jul15:04         i +* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof6joes
9 Jul15:16         i i+* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof4olcott
10 Jul10:05         i ii+* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof2Mikko
10 Jul15:09         i iii`- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1olcott
10 Jul12:26         i ii`- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon
9 Jul16:09         i i`- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1olcott
10 Jul10:02         i `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof3Mikko
10 Jul15:09         i  `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof2olcott
10 Jul15:55         i   `- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1olcott
9 Jul12:09         `- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon

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