Re: My reviewers think that halt deciders must report on the behavior of their caller

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Sujet : Re: My reviewers think that halt deciders must report on the behavior of their caller
De : noreply (at) *nospam* example.org (joes)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 12. Jul 2025, 11:52:36
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Am Fri, 11 Jul 2025 16:13:38 -0500 schrieb olcott:
On 7/11/2025 3:59 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:

As usual claims without evidence. If we do not change the input (which
aborts after a few cycles o simulation), then the simulating HHH could
reach the final halt state without abort.

It is a very easily verified fact that the input never aborts anything
at all.

Only because it is aborted in turn. The *input*, being the code of DDD,
doesn't do anything at all since it is just a representation. This
representation has reachable code to abort.

--
Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math:
It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.

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