Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error --- Flibble is correct

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Sujet : Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error --- Flibble is correct
De : polcott333 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (olcott)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 22. Jul 2025, 16:21:13
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On 7/22/2025 9:19 AM, joes wrote:
Am Mon, 21 Jul 2025 09:19:23 -0500 schrieb olcott:
 
The correct measure of the behavior of the input to HHH(DDD)
is DDD simulated by HHH according to the semantics of the C programming
language.
The measure of HHH(DDD) is HHH(DDD)?
 
void DDD()
{
   HHH(DDD);
   return;
}
executed HHH emulates DDD that calls emulated HHH(DDD)
that emulates DDD that calls emulated emulated HHH(DDD)
  machine   stack     stack     machine        assembly
  address   address   data      code           language
  ========  ========  ========  ============== =============
[000021be][00103872][00000000] 55             push ebp
[000021bf][00103872][00000000] 8bec           mov ebp,esp
[000021c1][0010386e][0000219e] 689e210000     push 0000219e // push DDD
[000021c6][0010386a][000021cb] e823f4ffff     call 000015ee // call HHH
New slave_stack at:103916
Begin Local Halt Decider Simulation   Execution Trace Stored at:11391e
[0000219e][0011390e][00113912] 55             push ebp
[0000219f][0011390e][00113912] 8bec           mov ebp,esp
[000021a1][0011390a][0000219e] 689e210000     push 0000219e // push DDD
[000021a6][00113906][000021ab] e843f4ffff     call 000015ee // call HHH
New slave_stack at:14e33e
[0000219e][0015e336][0015e33a] 55             push ebp
[0000219f][0015e336][0015e33a] 8bec           mov ebp,esp
[000021a1][0015e332][0000219e] 689e210000     push 0000219e // push DDD
[000021a6][0015e32e][000021ab] e843f4ffff     call 000015ee // call HHH
--
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17 Jul 25 * The halting problem as defined is a category error166olcott
18 Jul 25 +* Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error110Mike Terry
18 Jul 25 i+* Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error6olcott
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18 Jul 25 iii `- Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error1Richard Damon
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18 Jul 25 i`* Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error --- Flibble is correct103olcott
18 Jul 25 i `* Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error --- Flibble is correct102Mike Terry
18 Jul 25 i  `* Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error --- Flibble is correct101olcott
18 Jul 25 i   +* Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error --- Flibble is correct33joes
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19 Jul 25 i   ii`- Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error --- Flibble is correct1Fred. Zwarts
18 Jul 25 i   i+* Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error --- Flibble is correct3olcott
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