Re: Always use "--" (Was: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux)

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Sujet : Re: Always use "--" (Was: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux)
De : 643-408-1753 (at) *nospam* kylheku.com (Kaz Kylheku)
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Date : 05. Sep 2024, 03:29:49
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On 2024-09-04, Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> wrote:
On Wed, 04 Sep 2024 13:04:07 +0000, Kenny McCormack wrote:
>
In article <vb9k2l$3r705$1@dont-email.me>,
Nuno Silva  <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote:
...
D'oh!
>
(Along with these quotes, I'd add ./ before $file.)
 
Or, more simply, just put -- after the -p.
 
This is an often overlooked aspect of shell programing.  You should always
use "--".  The "shellcheck" program will tell you this, if you let it.
>
The "--" option is just that, an option coded into the argument parser of
the program being invoked. Many programs /do not/ recognize "--" as an
"end of flags" argument, so the effectiveness of "--" is unreliable.
>
OTOH, if you specify a fully qualified pathname, (or, at least, a qualified
relative pathname), you can assure yourself that the file path provided
to the program /will not/ start with the '-' that indicates a program flag.
>
Note that all this is /convention/ and not /requirement/. There are situations
in which /none/ of the above applies, as
a) the program interprets it's arguments by /position/, or
b) the program doesn't use the '-' to introduce flag arguments, or
c) the program doesn't take filenames as arguments, or
d) some other conditions that I'm too lazy to enumerate

d) it's a goddamned GNU program that continues to take options
after non-option arguments!

$ ls . -ld
drwxr-xr-x 67 kaz kaz 36864 Sep  3 15:59 .

... unless -- is specified to signal the end of options.

$ ls -ld -- . -ld
ls: cannot access '-ld': No such file or directory
drwxr-xr-x 67 kaz kaz 36864 Sep  3 15:59 .

So unfortunately although starting an argument with ./ will
ensure that it's not treated as an option, it doesn't mean
it will be treated as the first non-option argument after
which there are no more option arguments.

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31 Aug 24 * Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux (Was: Piping to stdin)61Kenny McCormack
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