Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair

On 2024-12-14, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Sat, 14 Dec 2024 15:20:25 -0000 (UTC), Jim Jackson wrote:
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On 2024-12-13, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
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On Fri, 13 Dec 2024 20:07:58 -0000 (UTC), Jim Jackson wrote:
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On 2024-12-11, Nicolas George <nicolas$george@salle-s.org> wrote:

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Jim Jackson , dans le message <slrnvlk56u.2qa.jj@iridium.wf32df>, a
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My God, how did we all manage running services before systemd came
along?

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Badly, with services that have crashed and nobody noticed for weeks.

 
People keep saying that. But in my experience services were run as
efficiently as they seem to be run today. Perhaps the team I worked in
knew what it was doing :-)

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How many custom services were you running on a single machine, just out
of curiosity?

 
What do you mean by custom?

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Code that you had to write substantially from scratch, as opposed to
configuring standard DBMS, Web, directory, MTA, DNS etc.

Ok I've done specific network monitoring stuff from scratch - back in
the day, when SNMP was a new thing. But it was easier to control than
other stuff because I (and a couple of others) wrote it - we knew it -
so what's difficult? We even transitioned it from pre-SYS-V init to
SYS-V init, and I remember no difficulties.

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I ask because the standard services will already have their startup
requirements worked out, because your own would require you to create your
own startup scripts. Which is where the trouble would often start, with
sysvinit.