Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair

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Sujet : Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair
De : ldo (at) *nospam* nz.invalid (Lawrence D'Oliveiro)
Groupes : comp.unix.programmer
Date : 11. Dec 2024, 23:26:56
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On Wed, 11 Dec 2024 08:33:29 -0000 (UTC), Muttley wrote:

On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 20:55:05 -0000 (UTC)
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wibbled:
>
One thing lacking from sysvinit is, while it can start a service, it
cannot ensure the service was started properly, and it cannot perform
reliable service shutdown. So the job of service management was really
only half-done.
 
It doesn't need to , it can just spawn off a script or some other
program which does that which is entirely inline with the unix
philosophy.

Which is where the trouble starts.

Something Poettering never understood.

Poettering understands that services don’t just to be started, they also
need to be managed and shut down cleanly.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
16 Nov 24 * Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair95Muttley
16 Nov 24 +* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair5Kenny McCormack
17 Nov 24 i`* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair4Muttley
17 Nov 24 i +- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Wolfgang Agnes
17 Nov 24 i `* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair2Kenny McCormack
17 Nov 24 i  `- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Muttley
17 Nov 24 +* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair5Kaz Kylheku
17 Nov 24 i+- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Muttley
18 Nov 24 i`* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair3Eric Pozharski
18 Nov 24 i `* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair2Kaz Kylheku
19 Nov 24 i  `- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Eric Pozharski
18 Nov 24 +* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair4Janis Papanagnou
18 Nov 24 i+- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Muttley
18 Nov 24 i`* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair2Richard Kettlewell
18 Nov 24 i `- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Muttley
3 Dec 24 +* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair79Muttley
3 Dec 24 i`* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair78Lawrence D'Oliveiro
4 Dec 24 i +* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair75Muttley
5 Dec 24 i i`* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair74Lawrence D'Oliveiro
5 Dec 24 i i +* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair4Kenny McCormack
5 Dec 24 i i i`* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair3Dan Cross
5 Dec 24 i i i `* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair2Kenny McCormack
5 Dec 24 i i i  `- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Muttley
5 Dec 24 i i +- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Nicolas George
5 Dec 24 i i `* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair68Muttley
5 Dec 24 i i  `* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair67Lawrence D'Oliveiro
6 Dec 24 i i   +* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair10Muttley
6 Dec 24 i i   i`* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair9Lawrence D'Oliveiro
6 Dec 24 i i   i +- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1John Ames
7 Dec 24 i i   i `* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair7Muttley
7 Dec 24 i i   i  +* Windows-think and systemd (Was: Something completely unrelated to what we're yapping about now)5Kenny McCormack
7 Dec 24 i i   i  i+* Re: Windows-think and systemd (Was: Something completely unrelated to what we're yapping about now)2Muttley
14 Dec 24 i i   i  ii`- AIX (was Re: Windows-think and systemd)1Janis Papanagnou
8 Dec 24 i i   i  i+- Re: Windows-think and systemd (Was: Something completely unrelated to what we're yapping about now)1Kaz Kylheku
9 Dec 24 i i   i  i`- Re: Windows-think and systemd (Was: Something completely unrelated to what we're yapping about now)1Jim Jackson
9 Dec 24 i i   i  `- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Rainer Weikusat
6 Dec 24 i i   +- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Rainer Weikusat
9 Dec 24 i i   +* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair53Jim Jackson
10 Dec 24 i i   i+* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
10 Dec 24 i i   ii`- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Rainer Weikusat
10 Dec 24 i i   i`* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair50Richard Kettlewell
10 Dec 24 i i   i `* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair49Muttley
10 Dec 24 i i   i  +- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Jim Jackson
10 Dec 24 i i   i  `* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair47Lawrence D'Oliveiro
10 Dec 24 i i   i   +- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Rainer Weikusat
11 Dec 24 i i   i   `* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair45Muttley
11 Dec 24 i i   i    `* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair44Lawrence D'Oliveiro
11 Dec 24 i i   i     +* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair15Jim Jackson
12 Dec 24 i i   i     i`* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair14Nicolas George
12 Dec 24 i i   i     i +* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair2Alexis
12 Dec 24 i i   i     i i`- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Nicolas George
12 Dec 24 i i   i     i +* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
12 Dec 24 i i   i     i i`* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair2Muttley
12 Dec 24 i i   i     i i `- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
13 Dec 24 i i   i     i `* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair8Jim Jackson
13 Dec 24 i i   i     i  `* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair7Lawrence D'Oliveiro
14 Dec 24 i i   i     i   `* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair6Jim Jackson
14 Dec 24 i i   i     i    `* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair5Lawrence D'Oliveiro
17 Dec00:03 i i   i     i     `* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair4Jim Jackson
17 Dec03:39 i i   i     i      `* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
18 Dec22:19 i i   i     i       `* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair2Jim Jackson
18 Dec23:25 i i   i     i        `- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Jim Jackson
12 Dec 24 i i   i     `* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair28Muttley
12 Dec 24 i i   i      `* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair27Lawrence D'Oliveiro
13 Dec 24 i i   i       +* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair24Muttley
13 Dec 24 i i   i       i`* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair23John Ames
14 Dec 24 i i   i       i +* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair21Lawrence D'Oliveiro
14 Dec 24 i i   i       i i+* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair8Rainer Weikusat
15 Dec 24 i i   i       i ii`* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair7Muttley
15 Dec 24 i i   i       i ii `* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair6Rainer Weikusat
16 Dec09:16 i i   i       i ii  `* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair5Muttley
16 Dec20:51 i i   i       i ii   `* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair4Lawrence D'Oliveiro
17 Dec09:34 i i   i       i ii    +* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair2Muttley
17 Dec20:44 i i   i       i ii    i`- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
17 Dec18:27 i i   i       i ii    `- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Rainer Weikusat
16 Dec16:55 i i   i       i i`* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair12John Ames
16 Dec21:15 i i   i       i i `* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair11Lawrence D'Oliveiro
16 Dec21:44 i i   i       i i  +- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1John Ames
17 Dec00:07 i i   i       i i  +* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair8Jim Jackson
17 Dec03:37 i i   i       i i  i+* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
17 Dec09:35 i i   i       i i  ii`* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair2Muttley
17 Dec20:45 i i   i       i i  ii `- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
17 Dec20:48 i i   i       i i  i`* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair4Richard Kettlewell
17 Dec21:45 i i   i       i i  i +* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
17 Dec23:00 i i   i       i i  i i`- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Kenny McCormack
17 Dec21:54 i i   i       i i  i `- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Rainer Weikusat
17 Dec18:28 i i   i       i i  `- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Rainer Weikusat
14 Dec 24 i i   i       i `- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Muttley
13 Dec 24 i i   i       +- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Rainer Weikusat
13 Dec 24 i i   i       `- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Jim Jackson
14 Dec 24 i i   +- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Muttley
14 Dec 24 i i   `- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
14 Dec 24 i +- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Muttley
16 Dec15:05 i `- macOS and UNIX conformance (was: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair)1Geoff Clare
3 Dec 24 `- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Richard Kettlewell

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