Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair

Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> writes:

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Mon, 16 Dec 2024 07:55:19 -0800, John Ames wrote:

The fact that people are free to make stupid choices does not mean
that other people aren't allowed to call out stupidity where they
see it.

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Notice that all the complaints seem to go in one direction, not the
other?  We only see systemd-haters complaining about those using it,
you don???t see systemd users complaining about those who don???t?

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No. But I think some of us get a bit pissed at some people making out
that previous inits were (almost) unworkable - which is palpably false.

‘Unworkable’ may be an exaggeration, but the practical issues and
functionality gaps were real; even if you didn’t personally experience
them, other people did. I think there were at least ten different
attempts to come up with something better in the free software world
alone. Meanwhile the commercial Unixes largely got their act together
long before Linux did.

Whether systemd was the best possible design, or just the best option
available, is another question, and perhaps more opinion-based.

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