Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair

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Sujet : Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair
De : jj (at) *nospam* franjam.org.uk (Jim Jackson)
Groupes : comp.unix.programmer
Date : 18. Dec 2024, 22:19:09
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On 2024-12-17, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 16 Dec 2024 23:03:46 -0000 (UTC), Jim Jackson wrote:
>
Ok I've done specific network monitoring stuff from scratch - back in
the day, when SNMP was a new thing. But it was easier to control than
other stuff because I (and a couple of others) wrote it - we knew it -
so what's difficult? We even transitioned it from pre-SYS-V init to
SYS-V init, and I remember no difficulties.
>
Anything with this <https://www.phoronix.com/news/Facebook-systemd-2018>
level of complexity?

Of course not - what a silly question. And the interesting thing was
that their set up is SO complicated systemd is only a part of their
solutions, which is sort of obvious. I'd have been more interested in a
comparison of previous set up v. current with systemd.

Their process for non-stop upgrades was a fairly standard one of old
service handing over to new and having to notify and co-operate with
systemd because systemd handles new connections. Previously I suspect
their processes handled incoming connections directly and there would
have been process-process link to do the hand over. Which one works out
easier to program and manage I'm not sure. But given they'd gone for a
solution Centos which had systemd init they had to adapt to it.

Anyway it was interesting thanks for the pointer.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
16 Nov 24 * Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair95Muttley
16 Nov 24 +* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair5Kenny McCormack
17 Nov 24 i`* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair4Muttley
17 Nov 24 i +- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Wolfgang Agnes
17 Nov 24 i `* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair2Kenny McCormack
17 Nov 24 i  `- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Muttley
17 Nov 24 +* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair5Kaz Kylheku
17 Nov 24 i+- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Muttley
18 Nov 24 i`* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair3Eric Pozharski
18 Nov 24 i `* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair2Kaz Kylheku
19 Nov 24 i  `- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Eric Pozharski
18 Nov 24 +* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair4Janis Papanagnou
18 Nov 24 i+- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Muttley
18 Nov 24 i`* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair2Richard Kettlewell
18 Nov 24 i `- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Muttley
3 Dec 24 +* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair79Muttley
3 Dec 24 i`* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair78Lawrence D'Oliveiro
4 Dec 24 i +* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair75Muttley
5 Dec 24 i i`* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair74Lawrence D'Oliveiro
5 Dec 24 i i +* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair4Kenny McCormack
5 Dec 24 i i i`* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair3Dan Cross
5 Dec 24 i i i `* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair2Kenny McCormack
5 Dec 24 i i i  `- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Muttley
5 Dec 24 i i +- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Nicolas George
5 Dec 24 i i `* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair68Muttley
5 Dec 24 i i  `* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair67Lawrence D'Oliveiro
6 Dec 24 i i   +* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair10Muttley
6 Dec 24 i i   i`* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair9Lawrence D'Oliveiro
6 Dec 24 i i   i +- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1John Ames
7 Dec 24 i i   i `* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair7Muttley
7 Dec 24 i i   i  +* Windows-think and systemd (Was: Something completely unrelated to what we're yapping about now)5Kenny McCormack
7 Dec 24 i i   i  i+* Re: Windows-think and systemd (Was: Something completely unrelated to what we're yapping about now)2Muttley
14 Dec 24 i i   i  ii`- AIX (was Re: Windows-think and systemd)1Janis Papanagnou
8 Dec 24 i i   i  i+- Re: Windows-think and systemd (Was: Something completely unrelated to what we're yapping about now)1Kaz Kylheku
9 Dec 24 i i   i  i`- Re: Windows-think and systemd (Was: Something completely unrelated to what we're yapping about now)1Jim Jackson
9 Dec 24 i i   i  `- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Rainer Weikusat
6 Dec 24 i i   +- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Rainer Weikusat
9 Dec 24 i i   +* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair53Jim Jackson
10 Dec 24 i i   i+* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
10 Dec 24 i i   ii`- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Rainer Weikusat
10 Dec 24 i i   i`* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair50Richard Kettlewell
10 Dec 24 i i   i `* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair49Muttley
10 Dec 24 i i   i  +- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Jim Jackson
10 Dec 24 i i   i  `* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair47Lawrence D'Oliveiro
10 Dec 24 i i   i   +- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Rainer Weikusat
11 Dec 24 i i   i   `* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair45Muttley
11 Dec 24 i i   i    `* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair44Lawrence D'Oliveiro
11 Dec 24 i i   i     +* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair15Jim Jackson
12 Dec 24 i i   i     i`* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair14Nicolas George
12 Dec 24 i i   i     i +* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair2Alexis
12 Dec 24 i i   i     i i`- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Nicolas George
12 Dec 24 i i   i     i +* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
12 Dec 24 i i   i     i i`* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair2Muttley
12 Dec 24 i i   i     i i `- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
13 Dec 24 i i   i     i `* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair8Jim Jackson
13 Dec 24 i i   i     i  `* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair7Lawrence D'Oliveiro
14 Dec 24 i i   i     i   `* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair6Jim Jackson
14 Dec 24 i i   i     i    `* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair5Lawrence D'Oliveiro
17 Dec 24 i i   i     i     `* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair4Jim Jackson
17 Dec 24 i i   i     i      `* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
18 Dec 24 i i   i     i       `* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair2Jim Jackson
18 Dec 24 i i   i     i        `- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Jim Jackson
12 Dec 24 i i   i     `* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair28Muttley
12 Dec 24 i i   i      `* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair27Lawrence D'Oliveiro
13 Dec 24 i i   i       +* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair24Muttley
13 Dec 24 i i   i       i`* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair23John Ames
14 Dec 24 i i   i       i +* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair21Lawrence D'Oliveiro
14 Dec 24 i i   i       i i+* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair8Rainer Weikusat
15 Dec 24 i i   i       i ii`* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair7Muttley
15 Dec 24 i i   i       i ii `* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair6Rainer Weikusat
16 Dec 24 i i   i       i ii  `* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair5Muttley
16 Dec 24 i i   i       i ii   `* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair4Lawrence D'Oliveiro
17 Dec 24 i i   i       i ii    +* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair2Muttley
17 Dec 24 i i   i       i ii    i`- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
17 Dec 24 i i   i       i ii    `- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Rainer Weikusat
16 Dec 24 i i   i       i i`* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair12John Ames
16 Dec 24 i i   i       i i `* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair11Lawrence D'Oliveiro
16 Dec 24 i i   i       i i  +- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1John Ames
17 Dec 24 i i   i       i i  +* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair8Jim Jackson
17 Dec 24 i i   i       i i  i+* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
17 Dec 24 i i   i       i i  ii`* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair2Muttley
17 Dec 24 i i   i       i i  ii `- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
17 Dec 24 i i   i       i i  i`* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair4Richard Kettlewell
17 Dec 24 i i   i       i i  i +* Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
17 Dec 24 i i   i       i i  i i`- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Kenny McCormack
17 Dec 24 i i   i       i i  i `- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Rainer Weikusat
17 Dec 24 i i   i       i i  `- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Rainer Weikusat
14 Dec 24 i i   i       i `- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Muttley
13 Dec 24 i i   i       +- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Rainer Weikusat
13 Dec 24 i i   i       `- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Jim Jackson
14 Dec 24 i i   +- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Muttley
14 Dec 24 i i   `- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
14 Dec 24 i +- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Muttley
16 Dec 24 i `- macOS and UNIX conformance (was: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair)1Geoff Clare
3 Dec 24 `- Re: Faking a TTY on a pipe/socketpair1Richard Kettlewell

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