Re: systemd (Subject line fixed as a public service)

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Sujet : Re: systemd (Subject line fixed as a public service)
De : antispam (at) *nospam* fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch)
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Date : 16. Jan 2025, 18:17:50
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 20:28:21 -0000 (UTC), Waldek Hebisch wrote:
 
And once something gets wide adpotion compatibility concerns frequently
mean that intrinsically better ideas have no chance.
 
Open Source projects seem less hidebound by that. Look at the way things
have evolved, with old “traditional” *nix ideas being supplanted by new
ones: netstat/ifconfig by iproute2, X11 by Wayland, various hacky audio
things by first PulseAudio and then PipeWire, sysvinit by systemd (and
other options) etc.
 
Just goes to show, there is no “vendor lock-in” in the Open Source world.

Rather that vendors can (an will) break compatibility when they want.
And actually systemd is an example of thing that users are essentially
forced to use regardless if they want it or not: it comes with the
system and is hard or even impossible to avoid if one wants to
use rest of the system.  Currenlty one can opt to use X11, but
apparently Wayland proponents want to remove this choice.

Breaking compatibility with past does not mean that compatibility
is not a concern.  Simply once enough vendors decide on "new"
solution other are forced to follow to be compatible.  And if
big vendors stick to their solution, alternative has little or
no chance of success.

--
                              Waldek Hebisch

Date Sujet#  Auteur
12 Dec 24 * systemd (Subject line fixed as a public service)23Kenny McCormack
12 Dec 24 +* Re: systemd (Subject line fixed as a public service)19Muttley
12 Dec 24 i`* Re: systemd (Subject line fixed as a public service)18Lawrence D'Oliveiro
13 Dec 24 i +* Re: systemd (Subject line fixed as a public service)4Nicolas George
13 Dec 24 i i`* Re: systemd (Subject line fixed as a public service)3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
13 Dec 24 i i `* Re: systemd (Subject line fixed as a public service)2Nicolas George
13 Dec 24 i i  `- Re: systemd (Subject line fixed as a public service)1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
14 Jan 25 i `* Re: systemd (Subject line fixed as a public service)13Waldek Hebisch
15 Jan 25 i  `* Re: systemd (Subject line fixed as a public service)12Lawrence D'Oliveiro
16 Jan 25 i   `* Re: systemd (Subject line fixed as a public service)11Waldek Hebisch
16 Jan 25 i    `* Re: systemd (Subject line fixed as a public service)10Lawrence D'Oliveiro
18 Jan 25 i     +- Re: systemd (Subject line fixed as a public service)1Muttley
18 Jan 25 i     `* Re: systemd (Subject line fixed as a public service)8Jim Jackson
18 Jan 25 i      +* Re: systemd (Subject line fixed as a public service)2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
18 Jan 25 i      i`- Re: systemd (Subject line fixed as a public service)1Jim Jackson
20 Jan 25 i      `* Re: systemd (Subject line fixed as a public service)5Muttley
20 Jan 25 i       `* Re: systemd (Subject line fixed as a public service)4Jim Jackson
20 Jan 25 i        +* Re: systemd (Subject line fixed as a public service)2Muttley
20 Jan 25 i        i`- Re: systemd (Subject line fixed as a public service)1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
20 Jan 25 i        `- Re: systemd (Subject line fixed as a public service)1Kaz Kylheku
12 Dec 24 `* Re: systemd (Subject line fixed as a public service)3Nicolas George
12 Dec 24  `* Meta (Was: systemd (Subject line fixed as a public service))2Kenny McCormack
12 Dec 24   `- Re: Meta (Was: systemd (Subject line fixed as a public service))1Nicolas George

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