Re: Wayland Is Coming

On Wed, 8 May 2024 12:03:34 -0000 (UTC)
gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) wrote:

In article <v1f0ja$3ot7f$2@dont-email.me>,
Lawrence D'Oliveiro  <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

So, X11 development has been moribund for years. All the major GUI
environments are adding Wayland support now.
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X11 is full of legacy cruft, like that graphics API (at least the font
server API went away years ago).

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The latest version of the Raspberry Pi hardware/software combination has
embraced Wayland.  However, people are having problems with it, and many
are giving (and taking) the advice to switch back to X.
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It doesn't look ready for prime time yet to me.

And probably never will be but will probably be adopted anyway even though
its half baked crap because the momentum of vested interests and the herds of
sheep will make it happen, just like systemd. It also doesn't help that the
wayland team dismiss anything thats hard to do as not required , eg remoting.

Wayland is little more than a high level frame buffer. With Xlib once you've
understood the concepts you can get something onscreen fairly quickly even
if it looks primitive by todays standards. Good luck doing that with Wayland.
If you don't use a high level toolkit you're in for a whole world of pain.