Re: Wayland Is Coming

On Sun, 12 May 2024 20:42:10 -0000 (UTC)
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 12 May 2024 08:48:49 -0000 (UTC), Muttley wrote:

No, it turned out the Wayland design was a poorly thought out dogs
dinner and now they're trying to get it to work properly.

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But you said yourself: “All that[’]s needed is a thin layer above the
framebuffer level to marshal graphics requests. Compositing isn't
complicated”. Are you changing your mind now?

Do try and keep up. What Wayland does isn't complicated so why is it still
in development after 15 years?

OpenGL was running on X back in the 90s FFS.

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On top of, yes. As a replacement for, no. Given that you have something
that powerful, the X11 graphics API itself becomes ... superfluous.

The GPU is superfluous on a lot of PCs that only get used for office work,
so what? There's a concept know as general purpose.

Plenty of programs still use Xlib ...

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Actually, a lot of them switched to XCB.

I've used X for years and had to go and google XCB. I've never seen it before
and looking at its C API it looks very much like Xlib with different function
names.

I remember people trying to persuade me how great the ACE C++ networking
library was and everyone would soon be using it. Yeah, that turned out well.

Until the zeolots decide X is for the bin just like they did init and
replaced it with the bug ridden POS called systemd.

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Ah, seems you lack what the French call “Systéme D”. There is a
discussion
about that in comp.os.linux.advocacy, if you want to go there and rant
about it.
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Or we can rant about it here. I don’t really mind, though some others
might.

It was an analogy.