Re: Is it a Joke? ? ?

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Sujet : Re: Is it a Joke? ? ?
De : relativity (at) *nospam* paulba.no (Paul.B.Andersen)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 29. Aug 2024, 12:22:14
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Den 28.08.2024 20:57, skrev Richard Hachel:
Le 28/08/2024 à 20:26, "Paul.B.Andersen" a écrit :
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Of course it is a bad joke that the speed of light is both
finite and infinite, and that you can make a clock change
its reading by looking at it.
>
>
You are babbling nonsense.

 If I look at a cylinder like this presentation of chips, I do not observe the same geometric figure in my field of vision depending on how I look at it.
Sometimes I SEE a circle, and my camera photographs a circle,
sometimes I SEE a rectangle, and my camera photographs a rectangle.
 <http://news2.nemoweb.net/jntp?KEAdeNaSGPhdUQc32DGS2HcmhqA@jntp/Data.Media:1>
 The same goes for measuring the speed of light, which is nothing other than the way I study geometry, universal anisochrony.
Depending on how I position myself, I do not measure the same thing.
Relativity is ALSO that.
 
I won't bother to comment your claim that the speed of light
between a watch and yourself depends on "how you position yourself".
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So let us look at another equally stupid claim of yours:
You are talking about a proton in the Large Hadron Collider (LHC).
Den 24.07.2024 00:19, skrev Richard Hachel:
 Don't tell me you don't understand that the proton rotates 11.25 million times per second in the laboratory frame but 78 million times per second in the proton frame.
 This is called time dilation.
 
In other words:
| While the proton rotates once in the laboratory frame,
| it rotates 6933 times in the proton frame.
|
| This is called time dilation.
This statement of yours prove that your 'theory' is inconsistent.
(Or rather, it proves that you have no 'theory', but are babbling utter nonsense.)
It is true that a proton in the LHC moves around the circle
≈ 11.25 thousand times per second, which means that measured
in the laboratory frame, the proton moves once around the circle
in T ≈ 90 μs.
Since γ = 7460, the proper time of the proton per orbit is τ ≈ 12 ns.
So a correct statement would be:
| Measured in the laboratory frame the orbital time is T ≈ 90 μs.
| Measured in the proton frame the orbital time is τ ≈ 12 ns.
|
| This is called time dilation.
The proton moves once around the circuit in the lab frame,
while the lab moves once around the proton in the proton frame.
But Richard Hachel claims that the proton moves 6933 times
around the cycle while it moves once around the cycle!
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Richard, you will have to flee again. Chicken! :-D
--
Paul
https://paulba.no/

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