Re: What's the difference

 > JAB wrote:
 > "What's the difference between Mechanical Engineers and Civil
 > Engineers?
 >
 > Mechanical Engineers build weapons; Civil Engineers build
targets."

The term engineer literally means you are
Liberal ( science ) in terms of creating new ideas.
The term technician literally means you are conservative ( arts ) in a
specific task.
Most engineers ( like my father ) works as technician, and will submit
ideas ( they do not get thanked for properly
outside of those stupid "Thank you" five dollar checks ).

Civil-Engineering = Construction, like studying Matrix ( Wind
resistance X, Y ) or keeping things tall in the wind like
the Statue Of Liberty, The Freedom-Tower/Condanast building,
Twin-Towers, Verozani Needle, and more. Oil-riggers for example are
closer to Civil-Engineering.

High-end = asides for the above mentioned, imagine being in charge of
every worker like a foreman, and being able
to read construction documents, and plan ahead of time. More or less
an architect or designer but you can tell the difference between rock
types, and stones. Want to build a structure with light-up rocks but
can not be plastic. Is a great example.
Low-end = "This old House"


Mechanical Engineering = Electronics, or the inner workings of
electronics. In order for you to run wires, connect them
with solder, program various electronics like displays, or the inner
workings of a television ( like if the PCB cracks and you
have put every wire back together using googles. Knowing difference in
radio types, or being able to read waves.

However = It does not go into the inner workings of Electronics. Like
creating a battery out of salt, water, and being able to compress that
in a small format. To even changing the current of the battery (
especially if you have a raid ), To even being able to send current
back up.

High-end = working in a university trying to solve energy problems.
Like fast charging devices and batteries.
Low-end = Electricians, and people working directly with electrical
units ( like the ones that is clearly storing energy )
or even Car-mechanics are a type of Engineer.

Now think about IT ( information technologies ). You have methods that
are ( arts ) but when machines changes this might require you to take
exams and further testing, despite you might know the other method.
However pushing IT
to the side as somebody who puts computers together. You have to be
comfortable enough to do this ( as a job ) and
do it in a timely fashion.

That being said while a Mechanical Engineer can move things at a slow
pace, they have a quota to meet. Civil-Engineer
first priority is the safety of the employees. As OSHA could visit and
slow things up via safety concerns.

A Civil Engineer could have a Mechanical engineer, working alongside a
Electrical engineer, with an IT person.
But again there are different levels of "POC" ( Power of
Command ). It could become problematic is everybody
is not together. Being a contractor is far problematic then being an
employee, because you will never know if you have
people who are actually functioning. If you have
"Civil-Engineer" who is working with construction, then all
of those
people standing by ( getting paid to move things ) should be there
responsibility.

Take Statue liberty. ( or any structure )

Civil-Engineer put that together with a team from various training
levels.
Electrical Engineer run all the wires and possible electrical
scenarios ( imagine leakage when a hole happens ).
Mechanical engineer will run all the wires concerning, communications,
security,
Hydroponics engineer will ensure there is water-flow and more then
decent plumbings and have there team
IT will ensure ( after all the screws and bolts and wires and safety )
will have *automation via Computers.
While Computer Programming falls under this, it is spread thin,
depending on needs. However sometimes the old
way works better and is more secured then the newer models presented
to the table.

* Now I mention automation. But this could be for anybody else
mentioned because it could mean a variety of things.

....................................................

Because many of these people work alongside Maintenance workers,
Security, and lesser trained jobs, many of them do not get the respect
they deserve as it is a blue-collar, brown-collar, white-collar,
cabana-collar scenario. So few people actually function in an ideal
environment and can lead to stressful situations.

Stereotypical job. Yes there is over-time, but they can be
discrimination. Which is why we have unions you should look for
not the lawyers from the company or organization you work for, but the
union. Be aware many corps like IBM will have Lawyers posing as
pro-union and thus create chaos or reasons to fire people for no
reason. In order to make there hiring and firing ( bob situation )
look normalized.
 

This is a response to the post seen at:
http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=669905586#669905586