Re: jobs apocalypse

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Sujet : Re: jobs apocalypse
De : nospam (at) *nospam* example.net (D)
Groupes : misc.news.internet.discuss
Date : 19. Jul 2024, 22:00:37
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On Fri, 19 Jul 2024, JAB wrote:

On Fri, 19 Jul 2024 11:52:59 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
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Oh no, that is incorrect. Socializing the cost, and what Uncle sam does is
not capitalism.
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Capitalists walk on a bedrock of socialized inputs ($$$)....
No. Some who are nothing but government beggars do, others don't. I think you are making a mistake in lumping them all together.

The Internet was created via Advanced Research Projects Agency
Network, and allowed the business sector to profit in various ways.
And many inventions have been done without the government. In fact, I'd argue that perhaps most of the inventions throughout all of humanity have been done without the help of the government. It is individuals who invent, not governments.

Without social inputs for various transport means, few capitalists
would exist today. Capitalism has a symbiotic relationship with
socialist thinking. But capitalists tend to think like parasites.
Incorrect. Capitalists work through private means. Socialist beg the government for favours. What you are referring to are socialists not capitalists.
Our definitions differ, so I think it is meaningless for us to continue discussing since we cannot agree on socialism, capitalism, capitalists. In addition to that, there is the problem of alternate histories. I could tell you, that according to Norbergs book, we have as a whole moved more towards capitalism, and as a result benefited.
The problem with that is that you will not read the book, and another problem is the alternate universe problem, where you can always say, oh, but if we were socialists, we would now all be happy.
I can only point to historical evidence, and economics which has explained why socialism always fails and always will fail, but those are just statements, which require books to understand the proof of.
Finally, yes, in todays world, pure capitalism is extremely rare. It exists online, on the black market, in certain local markets, and potentially in some legal pockets of international business. But for ordinary people, it's a mixed economy.

Remember a capitalist's thinking, 'capitalize the profits, and
socialize the losses,' whenever possible.
No. The capitalists thinking is to serve the customers as best they can, and the ones who serve the customers best, benefit through the free, informed consent of the market.
If there is no commons, there also is no tragedy of the commons, and hence no socializing to be done. Socializing the cost is a feature of socialism.

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