Re: Free speech absolutists weirdos

On Fri, 30 Aug 2024, JAB wrote:

On Fri, 30 Aug 2024 23:22:10 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
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No... that's the problem of qualia

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Increased/decreased temps can be measured, but no neural explantion:-)
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That is true, and fairly trivial and well understood. ....
it is fairly easy to increaes blood flow to certain
parts of the body with relaxation and visualization exercises.

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RE: Qualia - subjective, conscious experience
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But, empirical observations (temp readings) confirm the "subjective,
conscious experience"......hmm!
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I think it is trivial to draw the conclusion that readings confirm experiences. When we stimulate the brain, it generates experiences. So for me, that's a proven.
When it comes to the content of the experiences, that is a much tougher nut to crack. I'm sure trivial things can be generated with 100% accuracy, but if we're talking transcendent experiences, that does tend to get stuck in the subjective.
What is interesting though, is that people tend to get transcendent experiences based on the cultural tradition they grew up in, so I think that's something that makes them more materialistic.
I don't think many Hindus, without exposure to Jesus, get a lot of Jesus visions, and vice versa.