Re: Free speech absolutists weirdos

On Sat, 31 Aug 2024 12:04:46 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

Have you gained enlightenment? Or a better understanding of the topic?

Grasshopper (Padawan), complete enlightenment comes in ten stages, as
noted here in Tibetan Buddhism. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B1%C4%81na

But, empirical observations (temp readings) confirm the "subjective,
conscious experience"......hmm!

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I think it is trivial to draw the conclusion that readings confirm
experiences. When we stimulate the brain, it generates experiences. So for
me, that's a proven.

Grasshopper, without enlightenment, your opinion is biased.  Swami
Rama could induce atrial flutter

"In 1969, upon arriving in the USA, Swami Rama formed a connection
with Dr. Daniel Ferguson, who served as the head of the medical
hygiene clinic at the Veterans Administration Hospital in St. Paul,
Minnesota. Utilizing ancient yoga and meditation techniques, Swami
Rama astounded Dr. Ferguson by demonstrating his ability to completely
control his pulse under medical supervision. Recognizing the potential
significance of these demonstrations in the realm of biofeedback, Dr.
Ferguson reached out to Elmer Green of the Menninger Foundation in
Topeka, Kansas, proposing that their psycho-physiological equipment
might help unravel the mysteries behind Swami Rama's remarkable feats.

From March 28 to March 30, 1970, Swami Rama participated in a series
of experiments that, even to this day, continue to defy explanation
within the field of neuroscience.
...
...
While Swami Rama's earlier feats were undeniably remarkable, his
primary objective remained unfulfilled: demonstrating voluntary
control over an involuntary system, specifically the heart. The
following day, under rigorous scientific conditions, Swami Rama
achieved the extraordinary feat of inducing a state known as "atrial
flutter" in his heart for an astonishing 16.2 seconds. Atrial flutter
is an abnormal heart rhythm characterized by rapid contractions in the
upper chambers (atria), which, in this state, significantly raises the
risk of stroke or even death.
...
...
he could voluntarily generate Alpha, Theta, and Delta brain waves at
will."

https://rajassatija-muller.medium.com/when-an-indian-swami-tested-the-bounds-of-modern-science-57aef37129e6

What is interesting though, is that people tend to get transcendent
experiences based on the cultural tradition they grew up in, so I think
that's something that makes them more materialistic.

Let's see, 100 students watch someone run across the stage and shoots
a professor.  All students will not report the same event equally.

Likewise with a transcendent experience, but explained so others can
understand.  Examine all religous books...their essence is if you
don't clean up your act, there is a payback in the afterlife...Karma.