Re: Justice Department files antitrust suit against Apple

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Sujet : Re: Justice Department files antitrust suit against Apple
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Date : 23. Mar 2024, 19:09:06
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On Mar 23, 2024 at 8:04:08 AM EDT, "Oliver" <ollie@invalid.net> wrote:

On Sat, 23 Mar 2024 18:23:05 +1300, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote
 
And even if they WERE "anti-consumer" (whatever you imagine that means), what
law does that break?
 
Yep. And for those who don't like Apple's devices or rules, there are
plenty of other companies out there selling similar products - just
shut your big mouths and go and buy one of those instead.
 
Apple makes far more money by being anti-consumer than by abiding by laws.

You keep saying that, but it makes no sense. And AGAIN, what laws is Apple not
abiding? Because YOU don't like Apple does not mean they are breaking any
laws. 

Apple is a consumer products company.  They are selling directly to consumers.
 How do you sell consumer products to consumers (who line up to buy your
products, BTW) AND be "anti-consumer" at the same time? 

If Apple truly WAS "anti-consumer", then NO ONE WOULD BUY THE PRODUCTS. Do you
understand simple logic? 

This DOJ case is all based on competitors whining that it is too difficult for
them to make money selling software/whatever to Apple's customers. Well boo
hoo. Apple is like 25% of the global market for phones and PCs. Try selling
your stuff to the 75% of the market.

Or feel free to create your own phones/tablets/desktops/ecosystem and make
your money from your own products. Not just leeching from other company's
products.

U.S. anti-trust laws exist to protect consumers.  Not competitors. So this
case actually has no merit at all. Apple is NOT a "monopoly" in any market it
competes in. There are PLENTY of choices besides Apple. Competitors whining
that "Apple is not playing fair" is going to go nowhere. Remember, the U.S.
Supreme Court declined to even hear the appeal in the Epic/Apple trial.
Because it amounted to 1 company (Epic) whining about the contract THAT THEY
SIGNED with Apple. 

If you don't like the terms and conditions of the contract, THEN DON'T SIGN
IT. If you don't like Apple THEN DON'T BUY AN IPHONE. Neither is grounds for a
lawyers to get involved.

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