Re: Apple inflated the cost of its products through anticompetitive conduct

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Sujet : Re: Apple inflated the cost of its products through anticompetitive conduct
De : nobody (at) *nospam* oscarmayer.com (Oscar Mayer)
Groupes : misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Date : 29. Mar 2024, 02:51:37
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On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 18:46:30 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:

There are things that Apple develop for Apple product owners (the people who pay for the devices) in order to make the product a standout in the marketplace.
 Why should these standout features be made available to anyone for their profit when it is Apple's customers who paid Apple for these standout features.
 These companies want to ride it at Apple's expense.  Claims it is for customers is laughable.  It is these companies clamoring for access to what Apple paid to develop.
 If actual buyers of iPhones aren't happy, they can always run to Android phones - a lot more vendors, models, etc. than Apple could ever provide.
Here is the 88-page PDF that the DOJ wrote for us to understand the case. https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.njd.544402/gov.uscourts.njd.544402.1.0_3.pdf
The Verge says the DOJ's case is that the American consumer is paying more
for the iPhone than they should be paying. And they get less functionality
on the iPhone than they get on Android phones. https://www.theverge.com/2024/3/21/24107659/apple-doj-lawsuit-antitrust-documents-suing
"the Justice Department alleges that Apple is using a variety of unfair
tactics to entrench its market position and restrict innovation."
The DOJ's case is that the iPhone is less functionality at a higher cost.
We don't yet know what Apple has said about those two key allegations.
Certainly the iPhone has less functionality than Android phones, but even
with the limitations of the iPhone, many people seem to like the iPhone so
in a way it's like they bought a stripped-down Harbor Freight tool at an
expensive price but that alone isn't Apple's fault that happened.
Apple's job is to charge as much money as they can for that HF tool.
Just like it's Harbor Freight's job to charge as much as they can for it.
I feel Apple should be allowed to charge whatever they want to charge.
If people are willing to pay it, that's up to those people to decide.
Most people who own an iPhone don't even know what Android phones can do.
Just like most people who buy HF tools never owned a high quality tool.
But it doesn't matter what you or I think is true. It will only matter what a judge thinks is true.

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