Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?

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De : REMOVETHISbadgolferman (at) *nospam* gmail.com (badgolferman)
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Date : 05. Jul 2024, 22:34:48
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Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2024-07-05 13:02, badgolferman wrote:
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2024-07-05 11:43, badgolferman wrote:
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
 
[snip typical nonsense]
 
 
Personally I think they are so invested in the perfection of Apple that
they cannot bear the thought of there being flaws in its products. If
someone exposes such flaws, it invalidates everything they stand for.
 
The other side of the coin is that some people are so eager to find flaws
in Apple they forget to check basic facts. Like is this even anything
within Apple's control? Hint: nope.
 
 
 
If Apple software is dependent upon someone else’s software, it’s Apple’s
responsibility to ensure that software is safe. After all, it’s Apple who
tells us they are focused on safety and security.
 
 
Which you'll argue while at the same time arguing that Apple is wrong to
do what it can to increase safety and security by using an app store.
 
 
I have no problem with the App Store. But I do think the option to use
other stores should exist, with all warnings and check marks required for
you to advance. Apple shouldn’t be responsible for software they have not
vetted and if the customer still wants it then they are culpable if
something goes wrong.
 
So now you say that Apple shouldn't be responsible.
 
Make up your mind, huh?
 
 
But this is a different situation. Apple used someone else’s software and
didn’t correctly vet that. It perpetuated itself deeper and has caused
security problems now. That’s on Apple.
 
 
CocoaPods is a dependency manager; a software tool you use to create
software. It manages the dependencies you're using. It isn't software
that itself winds up IN your software.
 
So how could Apple reasonably check if some third-party software was
built using it?
 

Maybe I misunderstood, but I thought this problem also affected the Apple
software engineers.

In any case, I’m sure it’s virtually impossible to keep track of everything
but a company that touts its safety and security presence must do more.
Look at LastPass, they’ve become a joke.


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4 Jul 24 * Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?34Andrew
4 Jul 24 +* Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?7badgolferman
4 Jul 24 i`* Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?6Alan
4 Jul 24 i `* Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?5Jolly Roger
4 Jul 24 i  +- Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?1Andrew
5 Jul 24 i  `* Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?3Jolly Roger
5 Jul 24 i   +- Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?1Andrew
8 Jul 24 i   `- Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?1Andrew
4 Jul 24 `* Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?26Jolly Roger
4 Jul 24  `* Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?25Andrew
4 Jul 24   +* Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?16badgolferman
5 Jul 24   i+- Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?1Andrew
5 Jul 24   i`* Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?14Chris
5 Jul 24   i `* Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?13badgolferman
5 Jul 24   i  `* Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?12Alan
5 Jul 24   i   `* Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?11badgolferman
5 Jul 24   i    +* Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?8Alan
5 Jul 24   i    i`* Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?7badgolferman
5 Jul 24   i    i `* Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?6Alan
5 Jul 24   i    i  `* Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?5badgolferman
6 Jul 24   i    i   +* Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?3Alan
6 Jul 24   i    i   i`* Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?2Jolly Roger
6 Jul 24   i    i   i `- Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?1Andrew
6 Jul 24   i    i   `- Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?1Andrew
6 Jul 24   i    +- Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?1Chris
6 Jul 24   i    `- Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?1Alan
5 Jul 24   `* Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?8Chris
5 Jul 24    `* Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?7Andrew
6 Jul 24     `* Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?6Chris
7 Jul 24      `* Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?5badgolferman
8 Jul 24       `* Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?4Andrew
8 Jul 24        `* Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?3Jolly Roger
8 Jul 24         `* Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?2Andrew
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