Re: Man plans to sue Apple after ‘deleted’ messages reveal he cheated.

On 2024-06-15, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

On 2024-06-14, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

A man is preparing to sue Apple for more than £5 million after
‘deleted messages’ he sent to sex workers were discovered by his
wife.
 
The unfaithful husband claims that Apple’s lack of transparency over
deleted messages has led to his wife filing for divorce.
 
Richard, not his real name, is reportedly a middle aged man from
England, and revealed to The Times that he had turned to sex workers
in the final years of his marriage. He would contact them via the
iMessages app on his iPhone before deleting the incriminating texts.
 
However, when his wife went on the family iMac, the messages, going
back several years, popped up despite him believing he had deleted
them.
 
She filed for divorce within a month.
 
He told The Times: ‘If you are told a message is deleted, you are
entitled to believe it’s deleted.

 
The guy didn't have Messages in iCloud enabled, so when he deleted
them from one device they remained on the other devices signed into
the same iCloud account. Expecting them to be deleted from his other
devices despite not having Messages in iCloud enabled is irrational.
His "problem" is the result of user error. So, like so many others,
this frivolous lawsuit will go nowhere. 😉

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The behavior of that setting is the first time I’ve heard it described
this way. I doubt the average person would know to enable that setting
to delete their messages on the him computer too.

The average person doesn't know much at all, so that's no surprise.

If that setting was not enabled on his phone, how did his messages
even make it to iCloud for them to be replicated on the iMac?

My goodness... You're showing a clear lack of understanding of how
iMessage (or even iCloud) works. Any device of yours that is signed into
iCloud with iMessage enabled can receive messages sent to you. Those
messages are not stored in iCloud, but on each device that receives
them, which means deleting a message from one device will not
automatically delete it from your other devices. However, if you enable
Messages in iCloud (an optional and opt-in service), your messages are
stored in iCloud, where if you delete a message from one device, it is
also deleted from iCloud and your other devices. This same concept
applies to Photos, Contacts, Calendar events, and so on. It's literally
the way iCloud has worked since the beginning.

I know you boys desperately want to make this little mole hill out to be
a mountain, but it's literally just a case of user error. And this
cheating asshole getting what's coming to him is icing on the cake.

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