Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?

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Sujet : Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?
De : ithinkiam (at) *nospam* gmail.com (Chris)
Groupes : misc.phone.mobile.iphone comp.sys.mac.system comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Date : 06. Jul 2024, 08:39:51
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badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2024-07-05 11:43, badgolferman wrote:
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
 
[snip typical nonsense]
 
 
Personally I think they are so invested in the perfection of Apple that
they cannot bear the thought of there being flaws in its products. If
someone exposes such flaws, it invalidates everything they stand for.
 
The other side of the coin is that some people are so eager to find flaws
in Apple they forget to check basic facts. Like is this even anything
within Apple's control? Hint: nope.
 
 
 
If Apple software is dependent upon someone else’s software, it’s Apple’s
responsibility to ensure that software is safe. After all, it’s Apple who
tells us they are focused on safety and security.
 
 
Which you'll argue while at the same time arguing that Apple is wrong to
do what it can to increase safety and security by using an app store.
 
 
I have no problem with the App Store. But I do think the option to use
other stores should exist, with all warnings and check marks required for
you to advance. Apple shouldn’t be responsible for software they have not
vetted and if the customer still wants it then they are culpable if
something goes wrong.
 
But this is a different situation. Apple used someone else’s software and
didn’t correctly vet that.

See? You don't even understand the vulnerability. Yet you're happy to
freely blame Apple.

Apple haven't used anything here. It is third party developers who used a
utility that made life easier for them to support *their* apps. These apps
then are deployed into the Apple ecosystem.

Apple haven't used it, cannot check and have no responsibility for what
tools developers use in creating their apps.

It perpetuated itself deeper and has caused
security problems now. That’s on Apple.

That's like blaming Ford for a flaw in Continental tyres.


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4 Jul 24 * Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?34Andrew
4 Jul 24 +* Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?7badgolferman
4 Jul 24 i`* Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?6Alan
4 Jul 24 i `* Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?5Jolly Roger
4 Jul 24 i  +- Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?1Andrew
5 Jul 24 i  `* Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?3Jolly Roger
5 Jul 24 i   +- Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?1Andrew
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4 Jul 24 `* Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?26Jolly Roger
4 Jul 24  `* Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?25Andrew
4 Jul 24   +* Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?16badgolferman
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5 Jul 24   i`* Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?14Chris
5 Jul 24   i `* Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?13badgolferman
5 Jul 24   i  `* Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?12Alan
5 Jul 24   i   `* Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?11badgolferman
5 Jul 24   i    +* Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?8Alan
5 Jul 24   i    i`* Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?7badgolferman
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6 Jul 24   i    +- Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?1Chris
6 Jul 24   i    `- Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?1Alan
5 Jul 24   `* Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?8Chris
5 Jul 24    `* Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?7Andrew
6 Jul 24     `* Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?6Chris
7 Jul 24      `* Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?5badgolferman
8 Jul 24       `* Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?4Andrew
8 Jul 24        `* Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?3Jolly Roger
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