Re: The facts show Apple is two generations behind Android in AI (artificial intelligence)

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Date : 22. Jul 2024, 18:14:05
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badgolferman wrote on Mon, 22 Jul 2024 16:39:02 -0000 (UTC) :

 *Due to lack of R&D spending, iPhones are 5 to 10 years behind Android*
 
 
Notwithstanding the actual hardware, my point was the FindMy network and
technology behind its use is what Apple has done better than Android. Since
I really don't know much else about Android that was the one thing I
thought of when you issued your challenge.

I'm glad you brought up AirTags as an example of an Apple success.
I will never deny a sensible statement: I agree AirTags are hugely
successful (as far as I'm aware - as I haven't checked sales figures).

But I do believe, a priori, that AirTags are clearly an Apple success.

Since we're adults, we make assessments based on facts.
Only a fool denies facts (that's why they're fools).

It's clear, a priori, you and I consider AirTags a marketing success.

We can debate if AirTags are a leapfrog or not - as this is the timeline:
1. Apple launched its UWB AirTag in April of 2021
2. Samsung launched its UWB tracker at the same time
3. Tile launched its UWB tracker in 2022
4. Google still has NOT launched a UWB tracker (AFAICT)
   <https://www.tomsguide.com/phones/google-pixel-phones/androids-find-my-device-trackers-could-steal-this-killer-airtag-feature>

So clearly, Apple is far ahead of Google's UWB tracking.
Since Google doesn't even have a UWB tracker.

That's pretty far ahead that Apple is on UWB tracking, right?
(At least if we forget Samsung and Tile UWB trackers.)

Let's accept this, a priori, as clearly an Apple success.
Now... what else has Apple been able to innovate on for the iPhone?

Remember the point I am trying to make (which is always a twin):
a. The zealots believe Apple innovates but that belief is not based on fact
b. The zealots can't come up with a single iPhone innovation over Android

You're the only one who came up with *anything* Apple was better at.
The religious zealots couldn't even come up with the AirTag example.

As a rational adult, my argument is simply that Apple's spend on R&D is so
low (compared to other companies in terms of revenue percentage),
that it's not possible for Apple to innovate the iPhone over Android.

Apple doesn't spend enough on R&D to ever make iPhone technology better.

Other than AirTags (which I grant as an Apple marketing success) can you
name any iPhone technology that isn't 5 to 10 years behind that of Android?

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