Re: iFixit iPhone 16 Pro teardown

On 2024-11-15 08:17, Tom Elam wrote:

On 9/30/2024 5:00 PM, Andrew wrote:

Tom Elam wrote on Mon, 30 Sep 2024 13:51:56 -0400 :
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REALLY? Can you support that with facts, not unsupported words. Your words are total bullshit. I'll bet you don't read a word of what follows.
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Here are some facts:
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https://techinspection.net/iphone-vs-android-battery-life/
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Quotes:
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"Battery Capacity
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The battery capacity, measured in milliamp hours (mAh), gives a basic indicator of how much juice a phone's battery can hold. However, optimization plays a huge role in translating that raw capacity into real-world usage.
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Recent iPhone models have packed in these mAh capacities:
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iPhone 14 Pro Max: 4,323 mAh
iPhone 14 Plus: 4,325 mAh
iPhone 14: 3,279 mAh
For Android, flagship capacities include:
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Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra: 5,000 mAh
Google Pixel 7 Pro: 5,000 mAh
OnePlus 10T: 4,800 mAh
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On paper, higher-end Android phones edge out iPhones on battery capacities. The iPhone 14 Pro Max packs fairly large batteries given its more compact size. However, Apple's custom silicon helps enable power efficiency that closes the usage gap despite lower mAh ratings. Still, Android makers continue pushing the envelope on sheer battery size to enable marathon usage times."
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"Real-World Battery Life Tests
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Lab tests of battery life provide useful comparisons between iPhones and Android phones under controlled conditions. Reviewers like PhoneBuff run battery rundown tests for different use cases. In a web browsing test over 5G networks, the iPhone 14 Pro Max lasted actively for 11 hours 28 minutes, and on standby for 16 hours making it a total of 27 hours 38 minutes. On the other hand, Galaxy S22 Ultra was active for 9 hours 16 minutes, and on standby for 16 hours, making it a total of 25 hours 16 minutes. Clearly, real-world testing indicates iPhones have an advantage for typical daily use, thanks to the platform's power efficiency along with battery capacity. However, results can vary depending on the individual models tested in each phone generation."
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Other tests show iPhones and Android about the same.
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Here's the clincher:
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"Battery Life Over Time
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How well a smartphone battery holds up and maintains its charging capacity over an extended period is an important consideration for long-term owners.
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Overall, iPhones tend to experience less severe battery degradation than typical Android phones after 12-24 months of use. Reports indicate most recent iPhone models still have around 80-85% of their original capacity after two years. Though there is no way to determine battery health on Android, but using 3rd party apps like AccuBattery, it has been seen that many Android phones dip below 70% capacity by the same point as repeated fast charging takes a toll.
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However, Android variety means experiences vary. Since there are numerous brands, ways to check battery health on Android also varies. Since Android 13, Google started to offer battery health count from settings. Although smartphone brands are offering quality batteries, after a couple of years things like less battery backup and battery swelling happen in Android. On the other hand, there is no record of iPhone battery swelling.
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This happens because of the extra fast charging facility. Fast charging the phone every day has an adverse effect on the battery. Currently, brands offering 65-watt, 85-watt, and even 120-watt adapters on Android have a high chance of battery damage. iPhones on the other hand are quite careful with their charging accessories. That's why they don't offer anything extra other than suitable charging power."

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You have never read the news, Tom Elam, am I correct?
(You only read Apple's (rather brilliant) advertising, right Tom?)
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The fact is the EU told Apple to STOP SELLING el cheap iPhones, Tom Elam.
That's *every* iPhone below the iPhone 15, Tom Elam.
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Look it up.
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All iPhones miserably failed the EU's *MINIMUM* standards for battery life!
Even the iPhones that passed, *barely* meet EU minimum-life standards.
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While some Android phones *DOUBLED* the EU's minimum battery standards!
Think about that.
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In addition...
See my response to Jolly Roger where, using simple numbers, if you have a
batter that lasts for an entire week on one charge, but if that battery has
a 5 charge cycle rating, then it won't last more than a few months, Tom.
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Apple marketing is genius at advertising only half the picture, where
Apple's admirable number of hours on one charge is only one metric.
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What you have to look at is Apple's atrocious number of charge cycles
before that battery is considered dead as a doorknob - unchargeable.
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To put it bluntly, the main reason the iPhone has the most replaced battery
of all phones in that price range is Apple uses el cheapo battery design.
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The EU was so appalled at the extremely short lifetime of Apple batteries,
that the EU recently *forced* Apple to disclose the number of charge
cycles, and the EU forbid Apple to sell every iPhone below the iPHone 15 as
a result of the astoundingly low number of iPhone battery charge cycles.
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Look it up as we discussed this topic in great detail only a short while
ago.
You'd be hard pressed to find worse batteries than those in the iPhone.
At least in that price range - there are multiple batteries in Android
phones that last TWICE the charge cycles as the el cheapo iPhones do.
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Look that up since charge cycles are the major second-order determinant of
overall battery life, with initial capacity being the first-order
determinant, and the overall daily life being a third-order determinant.
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Sorry if this simple math is too much for you brainwashed Apple zealots.
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And sorry if the EU directly forced Apple to never again sell a new iPhone
lower than the iPhone 15 because they *all* failed the EU lifetime test.
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The fact is Apple batteries must follow the same laws of physics as other
batteries, and the fact is the Apple batteries are of an el cheapo design.

 So I tried to look up the EU banning sales of iPhones older than the 14 version. Can't find anything. What I did find was the regulation that forced USB C charge port effective with the iPhone 15.
 Please supply the reference to banning sales of iPhone 14 and prior.

Expect Arlen to actually support his bullshit?
Good luck with that.