Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting

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Sujet : Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting
De : nuh-uh (at) *nospam* nope.com (Alan)
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Date : 27. Nov 2024, 21:49:11
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On 2024-11-27 12:44, Joel wrote:
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2024-11-27 12:12, Joel wrote:
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
On 11/27/24 2:29 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2024-11-27 11:13, Joel wrote:
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
you don't buy an SSD just to have one on a shelf.
>
In other words, because Apple requires these payments, you rationalize
that you didn't really need so much empty space, anyway.  Congrats.
Meanwhile, I already had that much empty space, going back years.  Is
it superfluous?  Maybe.  But then again, it's elite.
>
No, that's not what I said or meant at all.
>
You buy a computer SYSTEM.
>
It's value to the end user is what the whole SYSTEM can do.
>
Does Apple charge a premium for expanding the storage? Absolutely.
>
Is it worth it in order to get a personal computer system that works as
well as a Mac does? Absolutely.
>
And having empty space isn't "elite".
>
Particularly since having the storage be internal is primarily only a
concern today for people who need the mobility of a laptop.
>
Utter nonsense, that's even worse rationalization than Alan's.
>
Why? Why is it nonsense?
  Because it's comparing fundamentally different things.  I could add
another SSD, without even removing my first one.  Whereas with Apple,
I have to decide up front exactly what the internal storage will
always be.  It's pathetic.
No. It's a business decision Apple has made and it clearly works well enough for many consumers.

 
Everyone else who's on a desktop can readily buy an external SSD,
including the URL link that Joel posted earlier today...
>
"WD_BLACK 1TB SN850X NVMe Internal Gaming SSD Solid State Drive - Gen4
PCIe, M.2 2280, Up to 7,300 MB/s - WDS100T2X0E ... $79.99"
>
<https://www.newegg.com/western-digital-1tb-black-sn850x-nvme/p/N82E16820250243>
>
and if it doesn't include an enclosure, add one:
>
"ORICO Aluminum M.2 NVMe SSD Enclosure, Tool-Free 10Gbps USB C Adapter,
USB 3.2 M.2 NVMe Reader, External SSD Case Thunderbolt 3 Compatible,
Supports 4TB 2230/2242/2260/2280 PCIe M-Key SSDs-PWM2-BK ... $11.69"
>
<https://www.newegg.com/p/0VN-0003-002G7>
>
>
Or of course, check to see if another model which comes with one is cheaper:
>
"SAMSUNG T7 Portable SSD 1TB - Up to 1050 MB/s - USB 3.2 Gen 2 External
Solid State Drive, Gray (MU-PC1T0T/AM) ... $89.99"
>
<https://www.newegg.com/samsung-t7-1tb-usb-3-2-gen-2/p/N82E16820147767>
>
USB?  Come on.  You're just lapping up Apple's spoiled milk.
What's wrong with USB 3.2 at 1050MB/s for a data storage drive...
>
...I mean apart from "bragging rights" about how your system is "elite"?
  You can make excuses, rationalize, but Apple is just crapware, is the
truth.  They take you for a sucker.
My systems just work.
:-)

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27 Nov 24 * Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting112Alan
27 Nov 24 `* Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting111Joel
27 Nov 24  `* Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting110Alan
27 Nov 24   `* Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting109Joel
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27 Nov 24    i `* Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting95Alan
27 Nov 24    i  `* Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting94Joel
27 Nov 24    i   `* Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting93Alan
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