Re: listening

Marion wrote:

On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 17:50:26 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :
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Have you noticed that the Apple trolls act exactly like herd
animals do?
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It's amazing to me that the three who responded  accused me of being
paranoid or a liar. If they really believe that then at least
explain why you think that way. Surely I can't be the only person
here who's experienced such a thing. I don't even understand why
these people hang out in this group if it's not for the exchange of
information and being helpful to each other.

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I only saw one person's response, whom I suspect is Alan Baker's nym,
but nonetheless I certainly believe you as the herd doesn't like your
question.
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I saw Alan Baker's attack on you in your quoted response, so if three
"people" responded, I'm already quite sure they all attacked you.
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That's how herd animals prevent you from asking questions in the
future.
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Anyway, adults would simple either try to help you, or, if the adult
can't help you, the adult let's someone else help you (and doesn't
respond).
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When adults try to help you, they can learn from the resuls, but
you'll notice the herd animals don't even try to help (or to learn).
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All they do is attack you.
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Anyway, I tried to help you by first explaining that your question is
commonly asked on normal operating system newsgroups. Just last week
we were discussing similar topics - so it's not a "paranoia". It's
normal.
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As for the iPhone, while possible, the timing of the video appearing
in your feed so soon after your conversation is certainly possibly
suspicious.
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Let's ignore the Apple trolls' repetitively childish attempts to shut
your question down and work on answers for you. Do you have Siri
working?  Apparently, even if you haven't directly used Siri to
search, it actively listens for its wake phrase ("Hey Siri"). It's
maybe perhaps possible that during your conversation, Siri
interpreted certain words or phrases (like "Goldwing," "alternator,"
or "GL1800") as potential search queries????
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If so, then Siri's contextual awareness could then influence your
YouTube recommendations, even without a direct search having been
done by you.
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In addition, YouTube's algorithm is known to be extremely
sophisticated and considers numerous factors, including your viewing
history (even if it's unrelated and, get this, it uses the viewing
history of people with similar interests. Yup. Who knew. Not me. I
looked it up.  Apparently YouTube also uses the content of videos
you've previously interacted with even if you haven't searched for
"GL1800 alternator".
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YouTube, apparently, can infer your interest based on other
motorcycle-related content you may have watched.
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Oddly, and shockingly, it turn out, Google might even use your
location, and the location of other people near you, that watch
similar content, to determine what to feed you.
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It is possible that the algorithm has correlated the location of you
and your friend by bluetooth proximity, and then correlated that with
the location of other people that watch those videos.
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For example, if your friend's phone was nearby and he had previously
searched for or watched videos related to bike alternators, it's
possible that YouTube's algorithm factored in this proximity since
modern advertising and content delivery can both use bluetooth to
determine close proximity of devices.
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It's not likely in your case, but if you and your friend were on the
same Wi-Fi network or using the same internet connection, YouTube may
have correlated your activity (which is how it ties family members
together).
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Here is a link to a youtube blog about some of what I found out above.
<https://blog.youtube/inside-youtube/on-youtubes-recommendation-system/>
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Here is a link to a website that explains how the youtube algorithm
works.  <https://blog.hootsuite.com/youtube-algorithm/>

I suppose what you say about Siri is possible, but how would Google
know what Siri heard when I asked my friend if he had changed the
alternator?  We didn't even use "Goldwing" or "GL1800" in our
conversation either.

My most recent searches were on how to change the cabin air filter in
my wife's Mercedes GLC300.  I didn't even know they have two filters
for the cabin air -- one in the engine bay and one in the passenger
compartment.  The inside one is the most convoluted and difficult cabin
air filter I've ever tried to change.  The carpet has to be pulled up
to make room for the wheel well panels to come out before you can get
to the panel door which has four sliding latches that keep the filter
in place.  That panel is so hard to put back in becaue you've got to
get all four latches lined up while the filter is pushing against it
before you can slide them in the locked position.  Just leave it to the
Germans to complicate such an easy task!

Here are the responses I got:

Alan wrote:

Ah!
Paranoia!

Johnny LaRue wrote:

Sounds more like iParanoia.

Jörg Lorenz wrote:

Either you are telling untrue stories or you believe in conspiracy
theories.